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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 263460" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>And, how exactly is enhancing your senses not giving you additional information that you would not have had without the spell?</p><p></p><p>The type of information is irrelevant unless it is not information about a creature (in the case of Mind Blank).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It does not matter if it targets the caster. It still gives information about the protected target.</p><p></p><p>How is knowing exactly where he will be a few seconds in the future NOT giving you information about the target?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please. Don’t be condescending. I understand you quite well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Semantics.</p><p></p><p>Low light vision is a transmutation.</p><p></p><p>Darkvision is a transmutation.</p><p></p><p>If See Invisibility were a transmutation, then your theory about it only affecting the creature it is cast on would be valid.</p><p></p><p>However, it is a divination spell.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line.</p><p></p><p>Look at Clairvoyance. It’s stopped by Mind Blank.</p><p></p><p>Arcane Eye? Stopped.</p><p></p><p>The point is that there is NOTHING in the description of See Invisibility that indicates that it is NOT stopped by Mind Blank.</p><p></p><p>You are merely making up an external rationalization which the spell descriptions do not support.</p><p></p><p>Show me text from the spell descriptions that clearly call out that See Invisibility is not stopped by Mind Blank.</p><p></p><p>I’ve already shown you text from the Mind Blank spell that states that it stops divinations that give information about the protected creature. It won’t stop divinations that give information about anything else, but it will stop those attempting to gain information about the protected creature.</p><p></p><p>See Invisibility is a divination spell. It gives information on the location of the target that he would not have if he did not cast the spell. It matters not that the information is acquired through the eyes. It matters not that in some cases, the target of See Invisibility might need to make a Spot roll to actually see his target.</p><p></p><p>Without See Invisibility, he could not spot his target. Hence, it is giving information to him if he does spot his target.</p><p></p><p>I cannot even comprehend that people think that Mind Blank will even stop a Wish spell when it is used to gain information about a target, but that a mere True Strike can bypass Mind Blank and gain information on the targets location well enough to virtually guarantee a hit with a weapon. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 263460, member: 2011"] And, how exactly is enhancing your senses not giving you additional information that you would not have had without the spell? The type of information is irrelevant unless it is not information about a creature (in the case of Mind Blank). It does not matter if it targets the caster. It still gives information about the protected target. How is knowing exactly where he will be a few seconds in the future NOT giving you information about the target? Please. Don’t be condescending. I understand you quite well. Semantics. Low light vision is a transmutation. Darkvision is a transmutation. If See Invisibility were a transmutation, then your theory about it only affecting the creature it is cast on would be valid. However, it is a divination spell. Bottom line. Look at Clairvoyance. It’s stopped by Mind Blank. Arcane Eye? Stopped. The point is that there is NOTHING in the description of See Invisibility that indicates that it is NOT stopped by Mind Blank. You are merely making up an external rationalization which the spell descriptions do not support. Show me text from the spell descriptions that clearly call out that See Invisibility is not stopped by Mind Blank. I’ve already shown you text from the Mind Blank spell that states that it stops divinations that give information about the protected creature. It won’t stop divinations that give information about anything else, but it will stop those attempting to gain information about the protected creature. See Invisibility is a divination spell. It gives information on the location of the target that he would not have if he did not cast the spell. It matters not that the information is acquired through the eyes. It matters not that in some cases, the target of See Invisibility might need to make a Spot roll to actually see his target. Without See Invisibility, he could not spot his target. Hence, it is giving information to him if he does spot his target. I cannot even comprehend that people think that Mind Blank will even stop a Wish spell when it is used to gain information about a target, but that a mere True Strike can bypass Mind Blank and gain information on the targets location well enough to virtually guarantee a hit with a weapon. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]
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