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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 4341441" data-attributes="member: 13892">First, the "roleplay versus rollplay" distinction is pretty meaningless, given that everybody has a different idea of what constitutes "roleplay" in the context of our hobby. That said. . . I personally only ask players to roll for stuff that matters in the context of the larger game. Climbing a cliff to escape a pack of attacking worg dispatched by the BBEG? Sure, I'll call for checks. You might even fall to your death if you fail enough of them. Building a campfire? No skill check required. I recently heard a horror story about a guy who forced his PCs to make a roll to build a campfire during the course of their journeys. There were no special circumstances or anything. They were merely setting up camp for the night. None of them passed the roll. The campfire went out during the middle of the night and all of the PCs froze to death. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />To make a long story much shorter, the GM in the aforementioned tale  apparently crowed about his mad GM skillz after this TPK event. He is no longer welcome at local game tables. The moral of this story? Don't make players roll for stupid !@#! like building campfires. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></blockquote>

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