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<blockquote data-quote="Zinovia" data-source="post: 4287286" data-attributes="member: 57373"><p>I don't think it's wrong to try to gently persuade your reluctant DM that 4E is not the coming of the anti-Christ. However the best way to do that is likely to include him as a player in a limited duration test of the game. Run one adventure, over the course of a few game sessions. Make it clear that this is not the start of an entire new campaign, but more a means of testing the waters. Ask him nicely to please set aside his pre-conceptions and try it out. Make it clear that you value his friendship and his input, and that it wouldn't be the same without him. </p><p></p><p>If he's not willing to even *try* the new game, then perhaps there's something more going on there. See how he reacts to the suggestion of a short 4E game in which all he has to do is participate. If he's still really negative about it, he may not enjoy even playing the game, since he'll be primed to interpret everything in a negative light. </p><p></p><p>Perhaps it's simply a case of him not wanting to have to master a new set of rules to feel comfortable running a game. The DM is expected to have a certain familiarity with the rules, and none of us (mere non-playtester mortals) have that yet. I can see where that would make him reluctant right there, as opposed to continuing to use the rules he already knows. </p><p></p><p>It's a tough situation if the majority want to switch and he doesn't. Talk to him and try to find out what his concerns are, if you can. Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zinovia, post: 4287286, member: 57373"] I don't think it's wrong to try to gently persuade your reluctant DM that 4E is not the coming of the anti-Christ. However the best way to do that is likely to include him as a player in a limited duration test of the game. Run one adventure, over the course of a few game sessions. Make it clear that this is not the start of an entire new campaign, but more a means of testing the waters. Ask him nicely to please set aside his pre-conceptions and try it out. Make it clear that you value his friendship and his input, and that it wouldn't be the same without him. If he's not willing to even *try* the new game, then perhaps there's something more going on there. See how he reacts to the suggestion of a short 4E game in which all he has to do is participate. If he's still really negative about it, he may not enjoy even playing the game, since he'll be primed to interpret everything in a negative light. Perhaps it's simply a case of him not wanting to have to master a new set of rules to feel comfortable running a game. The DM is expected to have a certain familiarity with the rules, and none of us (mere non-playtester mortals) have that yet. I can see where that would make him reluctant right there, as opposed to continuing to use the rules he already knows. It's a tough situation if the majority want to switch and he doesn't. Talk to him and try to find out what his concerns are, if you can. Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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