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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oni" data-source="post: 420627" data-attributes="member: 380">See page 18-19 of T&B, there is a section specifically on familiars and magic items.  Of course Wildshape is based on the Polymorph spells so basically your just re-referencing Polymorph.  Let me ask this way, can you provide an example that doesn't point back to polymorph?  Spells are not good examples when unsupported as they often have their own rules minutia specific to them, especially in the case of spells as complicated as polymorph spells.  One would think that something as blatent as large groups of creatures not being able to use a large portion of magic items would have been hinted at somewhere else besides the most eratted spell in the game.  The idea was this, the spell doesn't actually make you into the creature and thus is not a good example of what the creature can and cannot do.  Examples of Creatures using magic items:  Klauth, the great red wyrm from the FRCS (pg167) has a Ring of Wizardry II in his possession, the effects of which are clearly reflected in the number of second level spell he can cast.  Yarrick Zan, the mindflayer assassin from Enemies & Allies (pg10-11).  He has two rings and a cloak (the ring of protection and the cloak of resistance both reflected in the AC and saves in the stat block.  Anrenay, an ettercap cleric from E&A (pg45).  Wears +1 scale mail. Lord Carrion, a flesh golem from E&A (pg48).  Wears +3 rhino hide armor.  There are more examples in E&A.As for why none of this comes from the Monsters manual (as I imagine that question is coming), well the creatures there are barebones waiting for DM's to spruce them up for their individual games.</blockquote>

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