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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BaldHero" data-source="post: 5177535" data-attributes="member: 13173">Luckily for me, the party was pretty idiotic.but what defines "excessive" in this case? Also lets leave behind the condescension that seems to be apparent in your post. I have no idea what you are saying here, but it is making me angry.I disagree. Wandering monsters are not just supposed to be flavor text are they? I use wandering monsters to create a dynamic play experience. They are there to test and consume the resources of my players, as well as provide extra bits of EP for them. Why is it crappier to die to the bearded devil that showed up unexpectedly, than it is to die to at the hands of the bearded devil that is stationed at post A in room 13 on dungeon level 12?I answer with a firm and very definite maybe.I finally found the rules for bleed, and would have liked to know that it didn't stack with it's self when i looked at the bestiary. Having to look for a more detailed and better explanation in the core book was silly. But now we know and will move on. No big deal.In response to all of the above:Monster had max HP.Bleed was stacking.One character was not involved due to low int.One character spent more time trying to find just the right weapon combo.One character was killing the crap out of the demon with shuriken.The party did not rest.The party did not remove the curse from their cursed member.The party did not retreat.The party rogue was not using sneak attack dice.The Party rolled poorly.The party refused surrender.I made the decision about max HP, that was it. I stacked the bleed. The rest is all them.Sometime you run into bad guys when you don't expect too. Sometimes they are tougher than you expect, and you are already having a craptacular day.  The flavor of your post seems to indicate that you dislike allowing a wandering monster to end a party. Why is that? Do you feel it makes their end seem less glorious? Takes away from player fun? Keeps them from noble death at an adventures climax? Or something else?Thanks to everyone for the feedback.The TPK stands.</blockquote>

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