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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 3256139" data-attributes="member: 1164">Monkey grip is a smidge strong at those levels since it lets you 'power attack' more than you normally could, but after that, the feat is second banana to the 2 for 1 power attack output with a 2 handed weapon. The only other time Monkey grip lets you get ahead of the damage curve is if the attacker was dumping the entire 'to hit' into power attacka nd hoping for the '20'.Now one balancing factor is a large weapon should take a long time to craft rather than be laying around in medium creature's storefronts, costing additional rent in the inn room if the party just 'burns time'.Monsters use the same feats as Players, an orc warrior or ogre barbarian has the same amount of access to splat feats that you players do. You are showing him that at least one troll in the game setting agrees with him that Monkey grip is a worthwhile feat. No pissing contest involved, as new feats are introduced to your game, it is your responsibility to make sure NPC and monsters have feats that compliment their abilities and capabilities. Players update their sheets, you update your monster pallete.Examples:Wotc severely weakened Improved Overrun with the errata issued soon after 3.5’s release; it is only fair to pick a new feat as a giant default. Brutal Throw [complete adventurer] is a good choice, though monkey grip is fun too.Improved toughness is much better for most monsters that have toughness normally, If you allow the “Improved toughness” feat into your game, the toughness feat on most monsters should be switched over to that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 3256139, member: 1164"] Monkey grip is a [I]smidge[/I] strong at those levels since it lets you 'power attack' more than you normally could, but after that, the feat is second banana to the 2 for 1 power attack output with a 2 handed weapon. The only other time Monkey grip lets you get ahead of the damage curve is if the attacker was dumping the entire 'to hit' into power attacka nd hoping for the '20'. Now one balancing factor is a large weapon should take a long time to [I]craft[/I] rather than be laying around in medium creature's storefronts, costing additional rent in the inn room if the party just 'burns time'. Monsters use the same feats as Players, an orc warrior or ogre barbarian has the same amount of access to splat feats that you players do. You are showing him that at least one troll in the game setting agrees with him that Monkey grip is a worthwhile feat. No pissing contest involved, as new feats are introduced to your game, it is your responsibility to make sure NPC and monsters have feats that compliment their abilities and capabilities. Players update their sheets, you update your monster pallete. Examples: Wotc severely weakened Improved Overrun with the errata issued soon after 3.5’s release; it is only fair to pick a new feat as a giant default. Brutal Throw [complete adventurer] is a good choice, though monkey grip is fun too. Improved toughness is much better for most monsters that have toughness normally, If you allow the “Improved toughness” feat into your game, the toughness feat on most monsters should be switched over to that. [/QUOTE]

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