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<blockquote data-quote="Kzach" data-source="post: 4492447" data-attributes="member: 56189"><p>Who should win?</p><p></p><p>I'll give an example in a second but let me first clarify the intent of this thread. Basically, in a situation where there is a judgement call to be made, who should make the final call? I'm sure this has come up in many games before so I'm interested to see what people's experiences are.</p><p></p><p>As an example of what I mean, I had a situation in a game this week where a player's character was knocked unconscious and had ongoing damage. He got to -7 before he saved against the ongoing damage.</p><p></p><p>The enemy (a boss) was down to her last 20 hit points and had no more mooks to save her. One round of focus-fire and she was paste. Since she was adjacent to the character who had just gone to -7, she shifted away from everyone else and put a sword to his throat and said, "Back off or the dwarf dies!"</p><p></p><p>Now, immediately everyone had a negative reaction to this circumstance. It's something I'm not sure I'll do again with this group because of it. I think they like things simple, ie. enemy fights to the death no matter what. That aside, she could do 9 points of damage maximum with a coup de grace and she had readied an action that should anyone attack her, she would CDG the dwarf. 9 points of damage would take him over his bloodied amount, thus killing him outright.</p><p></p><p>The group was very mercenary about it all and were basically of the opinion that they should kill her and the dwarf be damned. I hinted strongly that there were options, i.e. she was bloodied so an intimidate would get her to back down, but nobody clued in so the situation kept playing out and round by round, the dwarf had to save to stay alive.</p><p></p><p>The problem occurs when one of the players says that his character doesn't think a sword to the throat is a big deal and that he reckons the dwarf will survive it so he wanted to attack. I told him that his character most definitely knows that the sword thrust will kill the dwarf outright so by his action, he'll essentially be killing the dwarf. He then argued that I can't tell him what his character thinks or knows, and that he's "roleplaying" that his character thinks the dwarf would survive.</p><p></p><p>So, which one is it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kzach, post: 4492447, member: 56189"] Who should win? I'll give an example in a second but let me first clarify the intent of this thread. Basically, in a situation where there is a judgement call to be made, who should make the final call? I'm sure this has come up in many games before so I'm interested to see what people's experiences are. As an example of what I mean, I had a situation in a game this week where a player's character was knocked unconscious and had ongoing damage. He got to -7 before he saved against the ongoing damage. The enemy (a boss) was down to her last 20 hit points and had no more mooks to save her. One round of focus-fire and she was paste. Since she was adjacent to the character who had just gone to -7, she shifted away from everyone else and put a sword to his throat and said, "Back off or the dwarf dies!" Now, immediately everyone had a negative reaction to this circumstance. It's something I'm not sure I'll do again with this group because of it. I think they like things simple, ie. enemy fights to the death no matter what. That aside, she could do 9 points of damage maximum with a coup de grace and she had readied an action that should anyone attack her, she would CDG the dwarf. 9 points of damage would take him over his bloodied amount, thus killing him outright. The group was very mercenary about it all and were basically of the opinion that they should kill her and the dwarf be damned. I hinted strongly that there were options, i.e. she was bloodied so an intimidate would get her to back down, but nobody clued in so the situation kept playing out and round by round, the dwarf had to save to stay alive. The problem occurs when one of the players says that his character doesn't think a sword to the throat is a big deal and that he reckons the dwarf will survive it so he wanted to attack. I told him that his character most definitely knows that the sword thrust will kill the dwarf outright so by his action, he'll essentially be killing the dwarf. He then argued that I can't tell him what his character thinks or knows, and that he's "roleplaying" that his character thinks the dwarf would survive. So, which one is it? [/QUOTE]
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