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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9556531" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Well, I know at least one past DMG has specifically included advice and support for player-DM collaboration to develop personal quests, and actual mechanical rewards for completion of said player-authored quests, so it's not strictly true that absolutely no support has existed before.I do agree that providing direct, explicit support specifically for sandbox-and-only-sandbox has never really been much of a thing in D&amp;D. But that's not what the OP spoke of, e.g.: &quot;Similarly, it mentions player goals in passing, but otherwise does not spend any time of establishing what this looks like as a way to play the game.&quot;Some DMGs in the past have done this. 5e's DMGs--both 5.0 and 5.5--have not. Of course, a big part of that is the criticism I've levelled at the 5.0 DMG for ages now, but I doubt it is productive to simply beat that drum yet again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9556531, member: 6790260"] Well, I know at least [I]one[/I] past DMG has specifically included advice and support for player-DM collaboration to develop personal quests, and actual mechanical rewards for completion of said player-authored quests, so it's not strictly true that [I]absolutely no[/I] support has existed before. I do agree that providing direct, explicit support specifically for sandbox-and-only-sandbox has never really been much of a thing in D&D. But that's not what the OP spoke of, e.g.: "Similarly, it mentions player goals in passing, but otherwise does not spend any time of establishing what this looks like as a way to play the game." [I]Some[/I] DMGs in the past have done this. 5e's DMGs--both 5.0 and 5.5--have not. Of course, a big part of that is the criticism I've levelled at the 5.0 DMG for ages now, but I doubt it is productive to simply beat that drum yet again. [/QUOTE]

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