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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 1041354" data-attributes="member: 537">Which part ofdid you not understand the first time? You can find a handwave for anything. But some handwaves are better than others.There is absolutely no reason the sorc spellcasting mechanic couldn't be used to handle the book-learning mage. In fact, last I checked, most other games used something similar (know only a limited number of spells, cast those spells whenever you want). D&D is the only game that has mages carry a spellbook everywhere they go, and prepare spells from that spellbook each day.This way, you could have one class handle _both_ the book-learning mage _and_ the "power of dragons" guy. Just like the fighter handles the knight on a horse, the greatsword guy, and the guy with the bow. It solves a lot of problems, including PrC creation, niche issues, and multiclassing issues.Because the EK and MT are _not base classes_. Sheesh.And I thought _you_ were one of those guys who wanted to cut the core classes down to the big 4?You'll note that neither the lasher nor the duelist resort to something as half-baked as taking two base classes and adding them together. Heck, even the arcane trickster and spellsword have unique abilities. It's only the EK and MT that are boring.Again, I say, if you want a cleric/mage that's actually interesting, have a look at Monte's hallowed mage. That's a cleric/mage done right.</blockquote>