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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 6433037" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>I know, (*scottish accent*), if it's not Planescape, it's craaap!</p><p></p><p>No, it's not problematic, nor a shame. Not everybody loves the eladrin, I get that, but jeesh. 4E certainly appropriated several names for new(ish) races and creatures that already *belonged* somewhere else, and this did rub some fans the wrong way, obviously. If you're a Planescape-lovin' dude who loves the traditional bestiary and cosmology of D&D that culminated in the wild and awesome Planescape setting, keep on gaming with what you got and stop begrudging the rest of us what we like.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I loved the new eladrin, *stolen* name and all. I didn't like how 4E handled the various 3E subraces of eladrin (if subraces is even the right word) like bralani and ghaele, however. It wasn't horrible, just not to my tastes and not very well detailed. In my campaign, I blended the two concepts so I could keep what I felt was the best of both official cosmologies. The "lowest" eladrin were the PC race and there were "higher" subraces that pretty much only lived in the feywild or Arborea, the classic 3E subraces. I merged the trulani with the Seldarine as the rulers of the eladrin races. Not sure I'll stay with that next time around, but it worked well for me.</p><p></p><p>And, just from this thread alone, I am officially tired of the (mildly) demeaning term "blink elf". Although, I'll probably use it later as a great racial epithet in-game at some point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Inexplicably? The DMG isn't even out yet for Pelor's sake! How dare WotC not accommodate ALL tastes within the first six months and the 3 core book releases!?!?! My gods man, there is only so much space in those books, you know!</p><p></p><p>I'm guessing something you might not agree with and like even less . . . nobody cares about the "classic" tiefling! Well, not nobody, plenty of folks on these boards prefer the old style devil children to the new hotness. But I'm guessing that WotC's extensive market research and playtesting found that there really wasn't much of a demand for a subrace that differs only cosmetically from what they have now. And that the "new" tiefling concept is more popular than the "classic" one.</p><p></p><p>I nostalgically prefer the 2E Planescape tiefling myself, but I don't really care if WotC ever releases an official version of it. All I plan to do is take the current tiefling and the random appearance chart from 2E and call it good. If I get ambitious, I'll cobble together some sort of random subrace ability deal, as from the preview creating subraces and new races is SO FREAKING EASY.</p><p></p><p>But what I won't do is beat the dead horse in the quote above. Dislike and don't use the "modern" tiefling all you want, but can we move past the divisive language like "problematic" and "blink elf"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 6433037, member: 18182"] I know, (*scottish accent*), if it's not Planescape, it's craaap! No, it's not problematic, nor a shame. Not everybody loves the eladrin, I get that, but jeesh. 4E certainly appropriated several names for new(ish) races and creatures that already *belonged* somewhere else, and this did rub some fans the wrong way, obviously. If you're a Planescape-lovin' dude who loves the traditional bestiary and cosmology of D&D that culminated in the wild and awesome Planescape setting, keep on gaming with what you got and stop begrudging the rest of us what we like. Personally, I loved the new eladrin, *stolen* name and all. I didn't like how 4E handled the various 3E subraces of eladrin (if subraces is even the right word) like bralani and ghaele, however. It wasn't horrible, just not to my tastes and not very well detailed. In my campaign, I blended the two concepts so I could keep what I felt was the best of both official cosmologies. The "lowest" eladrin were the PC race and there were "higher" subraces that pretty much only lived in the feywild or Arborea, the classic 3E subraces. I merged the trulani with the Seldarine as the rulers of the eladrin races. Not sure I'll stay with that next time around, but it worked well for me. And, just from this thread alone, I am officially tired of the (mildly) demeaning term "blink elf". Although, I'll probably use it later as a great racial epithet in-game at some point. Inexplicably? The DMG isn't even out yet for Pelor's sake! How dare WotC not accommodate ALL tastes within the first six months and the 3 core book releases!?!?! My gods man, there is only so much space in those books, you know! I'm guessing something you might not agree with and like even less . . . nobody cares about the "classic" tiefling! Well, not nobody, plenty of folks on these boards prefer the old style devil children to the new hotness. But I'm guessing that WotC's extensive market research and playtesting found that there really wasn't much of a demand for a subrace that differs only cosmetically from what they have now. And that the "new" tiefling concept is more popular than the "classic" one. I nostalgically prefer the 2E Planescape tiefling myself, but I don't really care if WotC ever releases an official version of it. All I plan to do is take the current tiefling and the random appearance chart from 2E and call it good. If I get ambitious, I'll cobble together some sort of random subrace ability deal, as from the preview creating subraces and new races is SO FREAKING EASY. But what I won't do is beat the dead horse in the quote above. Dislike and don't use the "modern" tiefling all you want, but can we move past the divisive language like "problematic" and "blink elf"? [/QUOTE]
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