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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6433258" data-attributes="member: 42582">QFT!Not to mention the difference between Grey Elves and Valley Elves, and between Wood Elves and Grugach/Wild Elves.What Dire Bare said.What does it matter whether the three &quot;sub-races&quot; are presented as races or sub-races? Who cares? The 4e lore, including the sundering of the elves, is classic D&amp;D seen through the prism of the Dawn War and the Feywild. I have a drow PC in my 4e game, whose goal for the whole campaign has been to kill Lolth and undo the sundering of the elves. The player of this PC has never played D&amp;D prior to 4e, but has not had any trouble understanding the interrelationship of the three varieties of elf.I don't know the &quot;classic&quot; eladrin other than as entries in the 3E Monster Manual. I used the Ghaele, Coure and Bralani (updated to MM3 stats) as envoys from the Prince of Frost to the Frost Giant Jarl. That seemed to work fine - the Ghaele and Bralani had cold and weather-type abilities, and the Coure played as a sneaky, evil fey.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6433258, member: 42582"] QFT! Not to mention the difference between Grey Elves and Valley Elves, and between Wood Elves and Grugach/Wild Elves. What Dire Bare said. What does it matter whether the three "sub-races" are presented as races or sub-races? Who cares? The 4e lore, including the sundering of the elves, is classic D&D seen through the prism of the Dawn War and the Feywild. I have a drow PC in my 4e game, whose goal for the whole campaign has been to kill Lolth and undo the sundering of the elves. The player of this PC has never played D&D prior to 4e, but has not had any trouble understanding the interrelationship of the three varieties of elf. I don't know the "classic" eladrin other than as entries in the 3E Monster Manual. I used the Ghaele, Coure and Bralani (updated to MM3 stats) as envoys from the Prince of Frost to the Frost Giant Jarl. That seemed to work fine - the Ghaele and Bralani had cold and weather-type abilities, and the Coure played as a sneaky, evil fey. [/QUOTE]

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