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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 6433932" data-attributes="member: 6677017">I hope so! I'm pretty optimistic in general about the DMG; I'm just outspoken in championing what I feel needs championed <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Yeah, even though I'm pro old-school eladrin, and &quot;I'm not sure I have any use for these 4e eladrin&quot; I have no objection to putting them in the DMG as an option for those who do. I actually thinks it probably a really good idea, especially along with the 4e cosmology option that it sounds like the DMG will include. It allows WotC to basically say that we can use either the Great Wheel or the World Axis in 5e, with official rules support.It's actually a lot bigger a deal than that.In 2e (Planescape)/3e there were a type of creatures called &quot;exemplars.&quot; There was at least one primary one for each alignment.LG:&nbsp; Archons (not to be confused with the 4e creature of the same name)NG: GuardinalsCG: EladrinLN: Modrons*TN: RilmaniCN: SlaadiLE: Devils (baatezu being the main category of them)NE: YugolothsCE: Demons (tanar'ri being the main category of them)*&quot;True Neutral&quot; = balance nazisExemplars were afterlife beings--they were formed of the souls of dead people of that alignment. (Some souls could have other fates, but this was one of the big ones that many souls went to.) They were your final reward or punishment. They were supernatural in the strongest sense--they were in no way natural &quot;races.&quot;Switching that to just another breed of elf is an extreme change.Anyway, I don't care what they call 2e/3e eladrin in 5e, and I don't care if 4e eladrin get sole claim to the name. All I care about is that all of 2e/3e exemplars (including eladrin) exist in 5e, more or less in their classic presentation.[Edited because I generally click &quot;post&quot; before I proofread]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 6433932, member: 6677017"] I hope so! I'm pretty optimistic in general about the DMG; I'm just outspoken in championing what I feel needs championed :D Yeah, even though I'm pro old-school eladrin, and "I'm not sure I have any use for these 4e eladrin" I have no objection to putting them in the DMG as an option for those who do. I actually thinks it probably a really good idea, especially along with the 4e cosmology option that it sounds like the DMG will include. It allows WotC to basically say that we can use either the Great Wheel or the World Axis in 5e, with official rules support. It's actually a lot bigger a deal than that. In 2e (Planescape)/3e there were a type of creatures called "exemplars." There was at least one primary one for each alignment. LG: Archons (not to be confused with the 4e creature of the same name) NG: Guardinals CG: Eladrin LN: Modrons *TN: Rilmani CN: Slaadi LE: Devils (baatezu being the main category of them) NE: Yugoloths CE: Demons (tanar'ri being the main category of them) *"True Neutral" = balance nazis Exemplars were afterlife beings--they were formed of the souls of dead people of that alignment. (Some souls could have other fates, but this was one of the big ones that many souls went to.) They were your final reward or punishment. They were supernatural in the strongest sense--they were in no way natural "races." Switching that to just another breed of elf is an extreme change. Anyway, I don't care what they call 2e/3e eladrin in 5e, and I don't care if 4e eladrin get sole claim to the name. All I care about is that all of 2e/3e exemplars (including eladrin) exist in 5e, more or less in their classic presentation. [Edited because I generally click "post" before I proofread] [/QUOTE]

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