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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 6434301" data-attributes="member: 63508">Considering it took 30+ years to fix the &quot;elf&quot; problem, I can excuse 4e for its bad fix of it when every other edition failed to fix it. Renaming high elves into eladrin wasn't the best solution but the designers were forced to address it. Sadly 4e had to created to popularize cantrips in order for the thought to give high elves cantrip to develop. I mean if warlocks were core in 3rd and the default fluff wasn't fiendish, I think a 4e designer might have got the idea to give &quot;high elves&quot; wizard cantrip and the feywild link never might have been needed.Still don't know if old eladrin are formed from mommies and daddies or just plop into existence.____So....Cantrip of choice + 1 Langauge = 2nd level Spell 1/rest =&nbsp; Cantrip + 1st level spell 1/day + 2nd level spell 1/day So do you think 1st level spell of your choice 1/rest is a fair swap as well?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 6434301, member: 63508"] Considering it took 30+ years to fix the "elf" problem, I can excuse 4e for its bad fix of it when every other edition failed to fix it. Renaming high elves into eladrin wasn't the best solution but the designers were forced to address it. Sadly 4e had to created to popularize cantrips in order for the thought to give high elves cantrip to develop. I mean if warlocks were core in 3rd and the default fluff wasn't fiendish, I think a 4e designer might have got the idea to give "high elves" wizard cantrip and the feywild link never might have been needed. Still don't know if old eladrin are formed from mommies and daddies or just plop into existence. ____ So.... Cantrip of choice + 1 Langauge = 2nd level Spell 1/rest = Cantrip + 1st level spell 1/day + 2nd level spell 1/day So do you think 1st level spell of your choice 1/rest is a fair swap as well? [/QUOTE]

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