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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 4172192" data-attributes="member: 2518">Of course that assumes that the both the natural armor and the manufactured armor protect the same parts which is exactly how it would not work. The manufactured armor covers those parts which are not covered by natural armor.Try to slide a dagger under a scale when it is also covered by mail. Head is not covered by natural armor? Thats what a helmet is for.Ah the familiar "3E was not perfect, so 4E can suck as much as it wants" approach. Guess what, 3E was obviously simulationist enough for me and a couple of other people and 4E isn't.Except that magical weapons don't tend to summon small paper clips which tell you where to strike but improve the quality of the weapon like making them sharper and I fail to see how a experienced fighter suddenly stops benefiting from having a better weapon.</blockquote>