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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tormyr" data-source="post: 6456554" data-attributes="member: 6776887">I think the simple answer for the Ogre is that its average damage can kill some level 1 characters outright.  It then falls into the "strongly consider things before using this on anyone below level 2" camp.EDIT: Taking a closer look at the Ogre, the CR for HP is 1/2.  The AC of 11 is 2 less than the suggested AC of 13, so the Defensive CR drops to 1/4.The DPR of 13 suggests an Offensive CR of 1, but the +6 attack bonus is 3 higher than the suggested attack bonus.  Normally that would mean that the Offensive CR would go to 2.The Average of the Offensive and Defensive CR is (1/4 + 2) / 2 = 2.25 / 2 = 1.125 which rounds to 1.  However, looking at the +6 attack bonus being really high for a CR1 creature and the DPR of 13 being on the high end you could give it an offensive CR of 3, although that does not strictly follow the guidelines.  That would make the average 1.625, which rounds up to 2.</blockquote>