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<blockquote data-quote="DMZ2112" data-source="post: 6443431" data-attributes="member: 78752"><p>Don't ruin this for me, Dragonhelm! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gave up, or were abandoned. What /actually/ happens at the end of Summer Flame makes no sense within the setting canon. It's ludicrous. /Everything/ that comes after is a travesty. Honestly, I too wish the setting could move forward rather than start over -- I hate reboots. But I don't see how you spackle the hole in this drywall.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you want my personal reason, it's because Mina is the most thinly veiled, phoned-in, taking-out-someone-else's-garbage wrecking ball in all of fantasy fiction. Nothing affects her, nothing can stand in her way, she single-handedly kills or destroys everything of prominence in the setting, and in the end she is exonerated of any responsibility for her extensive crimes and rewarded. I expect to see character arcs like that self-published on the Kindle store.</p><p></p><p>I suspect everyone involved at the creative level in that train wreck "has an idea" for a setting reboot. I know I would. </p><p></p><p>I mean no disrespect to the authors -- they made bad lemonade from spoiled lemons. I've never stopped reading Weis or Hickman in other settings and have never found them as wanting as they were in the War of Souls trilogy. I blame the corporate interference that was originally responsible for the Fifth Age. The War of Souls is just an abortive attempt to get back to baseline. Alien dragons indeed.</p><p></p><p>In short: Dragonlance /should/ move forward. But the Age of Mortals was a /mistake/. I have respect for people who own up to mistakes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By all means, coddle the stupid. Don't let me stop you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed, actually. It's pretty meaningless. I mean, I get that the gods are all up ons in Dragonlance fiction, but frankly in my experience with Forgotten Realms novels they read exactly the same way. Overall, Krynn seems like the grittier setting, with arcane magic either locked down by an authoritarian body or in an ongoing discovery process, divine magic on a perpetual rebound, and dragons that are so populous that they're really just giant predators rather than campaign set pieces.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DMZ2112, post: 6443431, member: 78752"] Don't ruin this for me, Dragonhelm! :) Gave up, or were abandoned. What /actually/ happens at the end of Summer Flame makes no sense within the setting canon. It's ludicrous. /Everything/ that comes after is a travesty. Honestly, I too wish the setting could move forward rather than start over -- I hate reboots. But I don't see how you spackle the hole in this drywall. If you want my personal reason, it's because Mina is the most thinly veiled, phoned-in, taking-out-someone-else's-garbage wrecking ball in all of fantasy fiction. Nothing affects her, nothing can stand in her way, she single-handedly kills or destroys everything of prominence in the setting, and in the end she is exonerated of any responsibility for her extensive crimes and rewarded. I expect to see character arcs like that self-published on the Kindle store. I suspect everyone involved at the creative level in that train wreck "has an idea" for a setting reboot. I know I would. I mean no disrespect to the authors -- they made bad lemonade from spoiled lemons. I've never stopped reading Weis or Hickman in other settings and have never found them as wanting as they were in the War of Souls trilogy. I blame the corporate interference that was originally responsible for the Fifth Age. The War of Souls is just an abortive attempt to get back to baseline. Alien dragons indeed. In short: Dragonlance /should/ move forward. But the Age of Mortals was a /mistake/. I have respect for people who own up to mistakes. By all means, coddle the stupid. Don't let me stop you. Agreed, actually. It's pretty meaningless. I mean, I get that the gods are all up ons in Dragonlance fiction, but frankly in my experience with Forgotten Realms novels they read exactly the same way. Overall, Krynn seems like the grittier setting, with arcane magic either locked down by an authoritarian body or in an ongoing discovery process, divine magic on a perpetual rebound, and dragons that are so populous that they're really just giant predators rather than campaign set pieces. [/QUOTE]
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