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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 6445032" data-attributes="member: 18182">No, I'm sorry. Got a bit snippy with ya and you are just trying to help.Folks keep explaining what the difference is between a torus and a ring, and in each post I've (tried to) made clear I get the difference. It's that I don't see the technical difference as all that important in my fantasy game.Most folks have never heard of a torus, but everyone knows what a ring is. The word &quot;torus&quot; is jargon, only necessary in certain circumstances. When I'm describing Sigil to players and/or characters, I could lecture them on the true nature of a torus, or I could more simply, quickly, and evocatively (IMO) describe the city as a ring. In my campaign, Sigil IS a torus, not a ring. But most descriptions describe it as a ring since that is the easier and more commonly understood concept. I'll have the party wizard, or educated NPC, get all academic on their asses at some point and point out, &quot;Well you know, technically, Sigil is not on the inside of a ring, but rather a torus.&quot; But, not at first.In my D&amp;D books, if Sigil is described as on the inside of a ring in a paragraph description in the DMG, I'm totally cool with that. However, if someday we get a 5E campaign book for Planescape, I fully expect a sidebar clearly defining the difference between torus and ring, and that Sigil is a torus.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 6445032, member: 18182"] No, I'm sorry. Got a bit snippy with ya and you are just trying to help. Folks keep explaining what the difference is between a torus and a ring, and in each post I've (tried to) made clear I get the difference. It's that I don't see the technical difference as all that important in my fantasy game. Most folks have never heard of a torus, but everyone knows what a ring is. The word "torus" is jargon, only necessary in certain circumstances. When I'm describing Sigil to players and/or characters, I could lecture them on the true nature of a torus, or I could more simply, quickly, and evocatively (IMO) describe the city as a ring. In my campaign, Sigil IS a torus, not a ring. But most descriptions describe it as a ring since that is the easier and more commonly understood concept. I'll have the party wizard, or educated NPC, get all academic on their asses at some point and point out, "Well you know, technically, Sigil is not on the inside of a ring, but rather a torus." But, not at first. In my D&D books, if Sigil is described as on the inside of a ring in a paragraph description in the DMG, I'm totally cool with that. However, if someday we get a 5E campaign book for Planescape, I fully expect a sidebar clearly defining the difference between torus and ring, and that Sigil is a torus. [/QUOTE]

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