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<blockquote data-quote="AdmundfortGeographer" data-source="post: 4611335" data-attributes="member: 4682"><p>That may be so. My belief right now is thinking WotC my be doing a tiered theme in the manner that the old BECMI managed.</p><p></p><p>In BECMI, a character's career went something like this.</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Phase 1 (Basic/Expert)</strong>- Going out to adventure, clear out some nearby dungeons and cave networks, making the home-base area safe for others.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Phase 2 (Companion)</strong>- Founding a domain, ruling it, building armies, and keeping one's own kingdom safe from neighbor threats as a ruler would.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Phase 3 (Master)</strong>- Traveling to, and exploring, other dimensions and planes and battling the threats from those worlds in a quest for immortality.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Phase 4 (Immortals)</strong>- Immortality.</p><p></p><p>Four clear phases to a character's career. The problem always seemed to be that players often didn't care to actually run their domain and would rather have just gone out and killed monsters and take their stuff during the Phase 2 levels. Plus, it felt a little clumsy to uproot those players who DID settle down to rule and tell them that now they had moved up to the Phase three levels they were obligated to now leave home and travel to other dimensions. I suppose a good DM could have given some foreshadowing that these changes to the careers were coming to make them easier to swallow.</p><p></p><p>In 4e I wonder if WotC is going to keep rulership out of the character career progression or save it for the Epic levels.</p><p></p><p>So 4e path themes might be:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Phase 1- heroic: dungeon and cave clearing, wilderness exploring (DMG 1 focuses here)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Phase 2- paragon: planes exploring (DMG 2 focuses on this)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Phase 3- epic: founding a realm, leading armies (DMG 3 might focus on this?)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Phase 4: ?</p><p></p><p>or,</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Phase 1- heroic: dungeon and cave clearing, wilderness exploring</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Phase 2- paragon (<em>and epic?</em>): planes exploring</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Phase 3: ?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm . . .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AdmundfortGeographer, post: 4611335, member: 4682"] That may be so. My belief right now is thinking WotC my be doing a tiered theme in the manner that the old BECMI managed. In BECMI, a character's career went something like this. [INDENT][B]Phase 1 (Basic/Expert)[/B]- Going out to adventure, clear out some nearby dungeons and cave networks, making the home-base area safe for others. [B]Phase 2 (Companion)[/B]- Founding a domain, ruling it, building armies, and keeping one's own kingdom safe from neighbor threats as a ruler would. [B]Phase 3 (Master)[/B]- Traveling to, and exploring, other dimensions and planes and battling the threats from those worlds in a quest for immortality. [B]Phase 4 (Immortals)[/B]- Immortality.[/INDENT] Four clear phases to a character's career. The problem always seemed to be that players often didn't care to actually run their domain and would rather have just gone out and killed monsters and take their stuff during the Phase 2 levels. Plus, it felt a little clumsy to uproot those players who DID settle down to rule and tell them that now they had moved up to the Phase three levels they were obligated to now leave home and travel to other dimensions. I suppose a good DM could have given some foreshadowing that these changes to the careers were coming to make them easier to swallow. In 4e I wonder if WotC is going to keep rulership out of the character career progression or save it for the Epic levels. So 4e path themes might be: [INDENT]Phase 1- heroic: dungeon and cave clearing, wilderness exploring (DMG 1 focuses here) Phase 2- paragon: planes exploring (DMG 2 focuses on this) Phase 3- epic: founding a realm, leading armies (DMG 3 might focus on this?) Phase 4: ?[/INDENT] or, [INDENT]Phase 1- heroic: dungeon and cave clearing, wilderness exploring Phase 2- paragon ([I]and epic?[/I]): planes exploring Phase 3: ?[/INDENT] Hmm . . . [/QUOTE]
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