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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 3278220" data-attributes="member: 20741">I pretty much have to agree with all of the above (which, considering those comments come at the books from a few angles, is rather remarkable agreement of the &quot;QFT&quot; kind).I bought the DMG2 expecting... something else I guess. I looked at it briefly when I got it and have used it for some teamwork stuff. Really - that's about it. If it was one of the very few 3E hardcovers that I ever bought - I suppose I might have looked at it more often and used some of the magic items.But - fact is - I buy virtually all of the WotC 3E hardcovers, and I barely touch this book as a result. When the Magic Item Compendium comes out - I expect that the words on the DMG2 pages could vanish and&nbsp; I don't think I would ever discover that they had for many years.PHB2 has not really taken off among our group. Compared to the Complete Series and the Spell Compendium&nbsp; - we tend to ignore it&nbsp; - perhaps more than we should.&nbsp; I don't think you'll be unhappy with the PHB2 - though if you use a lot of extra WotC material, it certainly CAN get lost in the shuffle.I think there is a substantial chance you'd be unhappy with the DMG2.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 3278220, member: 20741"] I pretty much have to agree with all of the above (which, considering those comments come at the books from a few angles, is rather remarkable agreement of the "QFT" kind). I bought the DMG2 expecting... something else I guess. I looked at it briefly when I got it and have used it for some teamwork stuff. Really - that's about it. If it was one of the very few 3E hardcovers that I ever bought - I suppose I might have looked at it more often and used some of the magic items. But - fact is - I buy virtually all of the WotC 3E hardcovers, and I barely touch this book as a result. When the Magic Item Compendium comes out - I expect that the words on the DMG2 pages could [B][COLOR=SandyBrown]vanish[/COLOR] [/B]and I don't think I would ever discover that they had for many years. PHB2 has not really taken off among our group. Compared to the Complete Series and the Spell Compendium - we tend to ignore it - perhaps more than we should. I don't think you'll be unhappy with the PHB2 - though if you use a lot of extra WotC material, it certainly CAN get lost in the shuffle. I think there is a substantial chance you'd be unhappy with the DMG2. [/QUOTE]

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