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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zinovia" data-source="post: 5191381" data-attributes="member: 57373">I have heard that complaint about Troll Haunt Warrens from a number of people, although I haven't played it myself.  The damage is too low on a lot of the creatures from MM1, especially Brute monsters.  Brutes are supposed to have low defenses and low attack bonuses, but high damage when they do manage to connect.  All too often they fail to live up on the damage values, especially at mid and high levels.  I reduce monster HP and increase their damage across the board in an effort to reduce grind.  Trolls apparently need that adjustment more than most, so don't use that module as a basis for evaluating the Expertise feat.     Threatening reach might be a good feature to add to more (but not all) large or bigger creatures.  I don't see many that have it.That module is an unfortunate choice to test this since many of the encounters are widely regarded as being too easy, and trolls themselves need some adjustment to make them more interesting and more effective.  The reason for changing the HP is to reduce the amount of time that combats take, but it needs to be done with your group in mind.  My striker-heavy group needs less reduction in monster HP than a leader/defender heavy group.  On the other hand, they can't take as much of an increase in enemy damage output as a group with three leaders.  Is it necessary to make these adjustments?  By no means.  But for many groups, combats were dragging out long past the point when the outcome was certain, and the players lost interest in spamming their at-wills to finish off the Orc That Would Not Die.  Better to have higher threat creatures that die more easily.</blockquote>

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