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Message: <blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 3002567" data-attributes="member: 3192">Ouch.  That seems like a murky ethical situation.  I'm guessing your campaign world is a bit darker than most, yes?  I would watch out for potential consequences if your players choose to ignore your proddings.  If they simply follow through with orders, they may feel like they've won without a clear victory.  It's not a bad ethical dilemma to use, but watch out for a lose-lose situation if they don't take the bait.  I'd try to reveal the dichotomy fairly early so they can see what is really going on.  Then they can walk away from it if they don't want to get involved.In regards to philosophical discussion, my guess is you're referring more to ethical concerns than other traditional philosophic debates.  The laws of nature, foundations of logic, or nature of man don't normally come up in RPGs.  Something like your Cosmological Law vs Chaos could work though if the players become interested.  The big warning here is most belief systems in Fantasy RPGs involve religion.  Sepulchrave works it nicely into his storyhour by having theology as the centerpiece of the campaign.  But the guy has a PhD in Comparative Religions from what I understand.  The players are already steeped in the specifics of their religions.  Without that knowledge it would be quite a different story.  My advice would be to offer some ethical discourse at points and see how the players take to it.  For example:1. The players find potential allies in a dungeon.  Instead of automatically joining or separating they want to know why they should trust the PCs.  Information shared by the NPCs would (likely) be commensurate to what the PCs share.2. Before the cleric at the local temple cures the PCs she wants to know what Gods they follow.  Depending on how the PCs convince the cleric their Gods and goals are in line with her's, she will change the costs and availability of healing.These are just starters really.  But to dig in and play out your scenario above will take a strong commitment - both in the 2 NPC groups and in discussing morality in game.</blockquote>

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