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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 4696162" data-attributes="member: 15991">1) I've no particular axe to grind against yaris don't know him , makes no difference to me2) I find that part of that module to be poorly written. IF the drainage happened at the same time every day like clockwork in as phenomenal a way as has been described here (after the fact) then somebody in the outlying area would have said something as the PCs were passing through. Probably not to the party themselves but they surely would have overheard something. If on the other hand that method of drainage wasn't out of the ordinary then it should tend to fade into the background much like the 100th gazebo or 500th  tree that stretches hundreds of feet up.  There is always scat on a path if your perception gets you to notice a particular piece of scat it should have something to do with something.3) That he had planned to give them XP and now doesn't know if he will because he let them use a rule that he shouldn't have and that let them "avoid the dangers" because the d20 didn't roll a 1 strikes me the wrong way. I like keeping the group together xp wise they don't get the orc xp obviously but they should get equivalent from the pipe, or in terms of story awards or something so everyone levels together.</blockquote>