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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 3502738" data-attributes="member: 35909">You basically nailed all the reasons I think DMM is fine and consider the reaction to it a bit of a knee-jerk.&nbsp; I've honesty never even seen it used, it's so very costly and easy to lose.&nbsp; This brings me to the next point (and the reason I chose &quot;other&quot;) - Persistent Spell is what's broken!&nbsp; I have NEVER seen a more outrageousy unbalanced* monstrosity of a feat!&nbsp; It doesn't matter if the spell lasts round/level (or even 1 round total, not sure off the top of my head) or hour per level, it's all the same as far as the feat's concerned.&nbsp; Is the massive stupidity inherent in such a starting premise merely lost on everyone else?!&nbsp; So yes, I ban this combo, but from the other side.* In this case unbalanced = extremely situational in power level.&nbsp; And, having looked over Frostburn recently, this isn't technically true anymore.&nbsp; Oh well.Finally, I'd like to say our current party has a gestalted Healer/Paladin with 18 turn attempts a day, and a massive charisma.&nbsp; Looking for feats to give her a better &quot;punch&quot; in combat, we looked at DMM.&nbsp; And realized what an absolute waste it was, both in feats, and turn attempts, which ARE useful (she has a feat that lets her burn one to heal at range).&nbsp; Feeling disheartened, we discovered in the same book Divine Spell Power.&nbsp; Now that there's a broken feat!&nbsp; It's come in handy so often for boosting damage and pushing through SR already.&nbsp; Even more fun: She just got access to Holy Word (She uses cleric spell list, and favored soul spells known/per day progression).&nbsp; Plus 4 caster levels REALLY can make a difference there!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 3502738, member: 35909"] You basically nailed all the reasons I think DMM is fine and consider the reaction to it a bit of a knee-jerk. I've honesty never even seen it used, it's so very costly and easy to lose. This brings me to the next point (and the reason I chose "other") - Persistent Spell is what's broken! I have NEVER seen a more outrageousy unbalanced* monstrosity of a feat! It doesn't matter if the spell lasts round/level (or even 1 round total, not sure off the top of my head) or hour per level, it's all the same as far as the feat's concerned. Is the massive stupidity inherent in such a starting premise merely lost on everyone else?! So yes, I ban this combo, but from the other side. * In this case unbalanced = extremely situational in power level. And, having looked over Frostburn recently, this isn't technically true anymore. Oh well. Finally, I'd like to say our current party has a gestalted Healer/Paladin with 18 turn attempts a day, and a massive charisma. Looking for feats to give her a better "punch" in combat, we looked at DMM. And realized what an absolute waste it was, both in feats, and turn attempts, which ARE useful (she has a feat that lets her burn one to heal at range). Feeling disheartened, we discovered in the same book Divine Spell Power. Now that there's a broken feat! It's come in handy so often for boosting damage and pushing through SR already. Even more fun: She just got access to Holy Word (She uses cleric spell list, and favored soul spells known/per day progression). Plus 4 caster levels REALLY can make a difference there! [/QUOTE]

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