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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3503011" data-attributes="member: 29014">Well, two for three anyway if we include Mystic Theurge as NLF suggested <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; The people who banned Mystic Theurge generally didn't build or playtest, though.&nbsp; And Warlocks.&nbsp; I never banned either and always thought they were fair.&nbsp; Warforged, on the other hand, the time and playtest does not prove to be balanced.&nbsp; It's not going to destroy most games or anything (like Divine Metamagic Persistant often will), but for many classes, Warforged is a massive advantage at low levels, and this is through both playtest and having them in games.Lest this thread devolve into Warforged discussions (where you say you had them in games and they weren't the most powerful because X other player did Y that was worse, just like some Divine Metamagic defenders are doing here), we can agree on the rest of your post and leave it there.Really, though, Mistwell (as he proclaimed himself) has been known to champion most overpowered combos with the same &quot;the GM could theoretically do something that might stop it if she biased all the encounters against it, and/or everyone could armsrace with this combo&quot; sentiments in this thread--when he's on the &quot;It's Overpowered&quot; side, you should definitely listen to him!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3503011, member: 29014"] Well, two for three anyway if we include Mystic Theurge as NLF suggested ;) The people who banned Mystic Theurge generally didn't build or playtest, though. And Warlocks. I never banned either and always thought they were fair. Warforged, on the other hand, the time and playtest does [I]not[/I] prove to be balanced. It's not going to destroy most games or anything (like Divine Metamagic Persistant often will), but for many classes, Warforged is a massive advantage at low levels, and this is through both playtest and having them in games. Lest this thread devolve into Warforged discussions (where you say you had them in games and they weren't the most powerful because X other player did Y that was worse, just like some Divine Metamagic defenders are doing here), we can agree on the rest of your post and leave it there. Really, though, Mistwell (as he proclaimed himself) has been known to champion most overpowered combos with the same "the GM could theoretically do something that might stop it if she biased all the encounters against it, and/or everyone could armsrace with this combo" sentiments in this thread--when he's on the "It's Overpowered" side, you should definitely listen to him! [/QUOTE]

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