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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3503613" data-attributes="member: 35788">True that!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Actually, I find the whole &quot;because Mistwell is arguing this way it must be overpowered&quot; argument to be unconvincing, and hope it wasn't seriously offered (for the sake of not being rude to Mistwell, at the very least).I still am in the camp that the overpoweredness of DMM: persistant is at best situational.&nbsp; As a DM, I know that I can handle it and it won't be broken in my campaigns.&nbsp; If other DMs come to the opposite conclusion based on their style and the people that they game with, that's great!&nbsp; But this concept that something is broken all the time or across the board is just weird.&nbsp; The concept of &quot;broken&quot; is much too highly dependant upon the player's builds and the DMs style.Do I allow it?&nbsp; Sure.&nbsp; Is it broken?&nbsp; Not here.&nbsp; Have I had many people take it because of the cost involced?&nbsp; Not many.&nbsp; Is it worth my time nerfing?&nbsp; Not at all.Can other DMs nerf it and still have a good game?&nbsp; Of course they can (and hopefully they do at the start of a campaign and not in the middle)!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 3503613, member: 35788"] True that! :D Actually, I find the whole "because Mistwell is arguing this way it must be overpowered" argument to be unconvincing, and hope it wasn't seriously offered (for the sake of not being rude to Mistwell, at the very least). I still am in the camp that the overpoweredness of DMM: persistant is at best situational. As a DM, I know that I can handle it and it won't be broken in my campaigns. If other DMs come to the opposite conclusion based on their style and the people that they game with, that's great! But this concept that something is broken all the time or across the board is just weird. The concept of "broken" is much too highly dependant upon the player's builds and the DMs style. Do I allow it? Sure. Is it broken? Not here. Have I had many people take it because of the cost involced? Not many. Is it worth my time nerfing? Not at all. Can other DMs nerf it and still have a good game? Of course they can (and hopefully they do at the start of a campaign and not in the middle)! [/QUOTE]

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