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DMM-Persisting Divine Power - what am I missing
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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5657134" data-attributes="member: 78958"><p>Sure enough, more-or-less cost-free Divine Power or Wraithstrike can make every good old Fighter pull out their beard in frustration.</p><p></p><p>I've been toying with two different approaches to lengthening spell durations even more than a simple Extend Spell:</p><p></p><p>1) Extend Spell can be applied multiple times, and is self-stacking. Apply it three times, and your spell will last four times its normal duration, raising the spell level by three.</p><p>However, who would apply the feat more than once or twice? Not worth it, most of the time. So from that follows 1a) Applying Extend Spell multiple times is possible, and each application doubles the modified duration of the spell. This means applying Extend Spell three times wouldn't multiply duration by 4 but 8. Applying it four times would multiply duration not by 5 but by 16 etc.</p><p>Solution 1a) actually seems balanced to me, but I haven't thought too deeply on specific spells one could abuse this with. It might get funny with Enchantment spells, for example...</p><p></p><p>2) New metamagic feat: Prolong Spell. This metamagic feat increases a spell's level by 2. It increases a spell's duration so it lasts longer: a 1 round spell lasts 10 rounds. A rounds/level spell lasts minutes/level. A mins/lvl spell lasts 10 mins/lvl. A 10 mins/lvl spell lasts 1 hr/lvl. A 1 hr/lvl spell lasts 1 day/lvl. Spells whose duration is already measured in days cannot be Prolonged.</p><p>If a spell is both Prolonged and Extended, it lasts double the increased duration: a 1 min/lvl spell would last 20 mins/lvl, for example.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 5657134, member: 78958"] Sure enough, more-or-less cost-free Divine Power or Wraithstrike can make every good old Fighter pull out their beard in frustration. I've been toying with two different approaches to lengthening spell durations even more than a simple Extend Spell: 1) Extend Spell can be applied multiple times, and is self-stacking. Apply it three times, and your spell will last four times its normal duration, raising the spell level by three. However, who would apply the feat more than once or twice? Not worth it, most of the time. So from that follows 1a) Applying Extend Spell multiple times is possible, and each application doubles the modified duration of the spell. This means applying Extend Spell three times wouldn't multiply duration by 4 but 8. Applying it four times would multiply duration not by 5 but by 16 etc. Solution 1a) actually seems balanced to me, but I haven't thought too deeply on specific spells one could abuse this with. It might get funny with Enchantment spells, for example... 2) New metamagic feat: Prolong Spell. This metamagic feat increases a spell's level by 2. It increases a spell's duration so it lasts longer: a 1 round spell lasts 10 rounds. A rounds/level spell lasts minutes/level. A mins/lvl spell lasts 10 mins/lvl. A 10 mins/lvl spell lasts 1 hr/lvl. A 1 hr/lvl spell lasts 1 day/lvl. Spells whose duration is already measured in days cannot be Prolonged. If a spell is both Prolonged and Extended, it lasts double the increased duration: a 1 min/lvl spell would last 20 mins/lvl, for example. What do you think? [/QUOTE]
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