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<blockquote data-quote="Gilladian" data-source="post: 6158266" data-attributes="member: 2093">I think we're misunderstanding each other. You, as DM, knowing that the runes are arcane, is fine. What isn't fine (in my personal opinion, only) is you having decided that, since the runes are arcane, the only way for the PCs to defuse them and stop the waves of elementals from arriving, is to then decide to make an arcane knowledge check, succeed at it, and discover the way to disable them. IMHO, as the DM, you can decide they're arcane runes, created by the Archmage, and not part of the original defenses the dwarves built. But HOW the PCs decide to DEAL with the runes and the elementals, is totally up to them, and you should have no preconceived notions of what they're going to do. If they make a decision to use their arcane knowledge, super. If they decide to let the thief use disable device, super too. If they get confused, can't decide what to do, and end up fighting, well, that's their choice. If they try some wacky alternate method, like rock to mud to deface the walls - as DM, it is your role to fairly and faithfully decide what that would do to the runes. NOT to say to yourself &quot;they're not doing what I decided they should do! It won't work!!&quot;Maybe I'm totally misreading your intentions, but it does seem in your initial description, that you had thought of the &quot;one proper&quot; way to negate the trap, and you were irritated that they weren't figuring out &quot;your&quot; solution to the problem. If I'm wrong, then great... but you may want to be wary of accidentally falling into that trap.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gilladian, post: 6158266, member: 2093"] I think we're misunderstanding each other. You, as DM, knowing that the runes are arcane, is fine. What isn't fine (in my personal opinion, only) is you having decided that, since the runes are arcane, the only way for the PCs to defuse them and stop the waves of elementals from arriving, is to then decide to make an arcane knowledge check, succeed at it, and discover the way to disable them. IMHO, as the DM, you can decide they're arcane runes, created by the Archmage, and not part of the original defenses the dwarves built. But HOW the PCs decide to DEAL with the runes and the elementals, is totally up to them, and you should have no preconceived notions of what they're going to do. If they make a decision to use their arcane knowledge, super. If they decide to let the thief use disable device, super too. If they get confused, can't decide what to do, and end up fighting, well, that's their choice. If they try some wacky alternate method, like rock to mud to deface the walls - as DM, it is your role to fairly and faithfully decide what that would do to the runes. NOT to say to yourself "they're not doing what I decided they should do! It won't work!!" Maybe I'm totally misreading your intentions, but it does seem in your initial description, that you had thought of the "one proper" way to negate the trap, and you were irritated that they weren't figuring out "your" solution to the problem. If I'm wrong, then great... but you may want to be wary of accidentally falling into that trap. [/QUOTE]

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