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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 3765377" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>Well that's why I mentioned that the DM might want to run something different, or get someone else to DM if people don't like the content he allows in his campaign.</p><p></p><p>If I have a campaign setting in mind and it's pretty set in stone, I would never give in to a players request if it was something I couldn't work into the setting. But I always at least try to work their PC concept into the game if I can justify it. If the player or DM is unhappy with the setting, then it's best to run a different setting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's kind of different than this threads topic. You're not asking the DM to allow something into his game that he doesn't want in his campaign. You just want to run something new and he doesn't want to deal with the hassle.</p><p></p><p>I always want the players having fun with their PC. If they aren't and they want to change, I always treat it as a PC death without the PC dying (new PC starts 1 level behind or whatever). Your DM shouldn't force you to play something you don't enjoy. Lay it out to him like this:</p><p></p><p>If he doesn't let you make a new PC, then you won't try to keep your current PC alive. When he dies, the DMs plot will be screwed up anyway.</p><p></p><p>If he lets you make a new PC, you will be more than willing to work with him so you aren't causing him extra work with the plot. </p><p></p><p>I know people like to say that DMs should never push a plot on players, but we don't live in a perfect world and some DMs have limited time to create a game for players to play in. Sometimes things hang on the hooks that the DM has created. </p><p></p><p>If you want a new PC, you should be willing to work with the DM to make it happen because making new PCs <strong>does</strong> cause more work for a DM. Any help on his part would be appreciated. Just tell him you'll do whatever you can to help make a backstory with a new PC that will allow the DM to continue on with his current plot ideas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 3765377, member: 18701"] Well that's why I mentioned that the DM might want to run something different, or get someone else to DM if people don't like the content he allows in his campaign. If I have a campaign setting in mind and it's pretty set in stone, I would never give in to a players request if it was something I couldn't work into the setting. But I always at least try to work their PC concept into the game if I can justify it. If the player or DM is unhappy with the setting, then it's best to run a different setting. That's kind of different than this threads topic. You're not asking the DM to allow something into his game that he doesn't want in his campaign. You just want to run something new and he doesn't want to deal with the hassle. I always want the players having fun with their PC. If they aren't and they want to change, I always treat it as a PC death without the PC dying (new PC starts 1 level behind or whatever). Your DM shouldn't force you to play something you don't enjoy. Lay it out to him like this: If he doesn't let you make a new PC, then you won't try to keep your current PC alive. When he dies, the DMs plot will be screwed up anyway. If he lets you make a new PC, you will be more than willing to work with him so you aren't causing him extra work with the plot. I know people like to say that DMs should never push a plot on players, but we don't live in a perfect world and some DMs have limited time to create a game for players to play in. Sometimes things hang on the hooks that the DM has created. If you want a new PC, you should be willing to work with the DM to make it happen because making new PCs [b]does[/b] cause more work for a DM. Any help on his part would be appreciated. Just tell him you'll do whatever you can to help make a backstory with a new PC that will allow the DM to continue on with his current plot ideas. [/QUOTE]
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