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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 3630643" data-attributes="member: 29398">Some of you seem to be missing a point Edena stressed in the original post: the idea is not necessarily to kill the PCs, but to make the players *think* you're gonna kill the PCs...there's a subtle but significant difference.My house rulebook has, right there in the introduction, a note saying that no matter what happens, sooner or later your character *will* die so be ready to deal with that.  And, eventually, they all do...at least temporarily (revival spells are a useful thing), from a staggering variety of causes some of which I as DM have absolutely nothing to do with. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But yes, let the players think the party's going to sail through everything and it gets boring in a hurry.  If I'm in a party where we deserve to get TPK'ed, then put the hammer down and bloody well kill us; we might mourn the loss of our characters, but you'll not lose any respect as a DM.  (by the same token, if we don't deserve to be TPK'ed, try and let at least one or two of us survive...)Lanefan</blockquote>