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<blockquote data-quote="Chimera" data-source="post: 3555350" data-attributes="member: 2002"><p>True enough. One of those three, his 'normal mode of operation' was a whole pile of neuroses and odd personal behavior wrapped in a blanket of Can't Pay Attention. He would regularly argue at great length about things that never would have been an issue if he'd actually been paying attention or if he'd only stop for 3 seconds and THINK about it.</p><p></p><p>Such as the last straw, which was when he kept arguing with me about (allegedly) one kobold casting multiple spells each round. Now stop and think. The basic rule of the game is one spell per creature per round. There were scores of Kobolds present at the battle and I would point at one and say "this one casts x". But he got it into his head that I was having one kobold cast 6-8 spells per round and thus the argument.</p><p></p><p>Five times I tried to tell him that wasn't what had happened and that it was different kobolds casting different spells. I went from facing him to facing 120 degrees away, giving him the "talk to the hand" gesture. He still kept arguing it. Finally I broke down, yelled and swore at him that his criticism was not valid. His reaction was to pause, say "Oh, I see what I'm doing wrong. I was phrasing it as a criticism when I should have been making a suggestion. I should be SUGGESTING that you shouldn't have one kobold casting all those spells..."</p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p>Then of course, the topper was to regularly accuse me of anger management problems because I (shock of all shocks) would get angry at the constant arguing about stupidly obvious things like that example, and his absolute inability to listen to the person he was arguing with. (He actually said once or twice "I'm so sure that my idea is right that if the other person isn't agreeing with me, I think that I'm just not making my point right and I have to try harder." (Um, maybe try listening???))</p><p></p><p></p><p>The other two people I dumped were;</p><p></p><p>1> The friend who was rapidly becoming Not Friend. The Bruce I mentioned above. Screwed me royally on a batch of home brew we did together. Did a few other not friendly things too. Then started blatantly cheating at the game table. The last time he didn't even bother to pull his dice out of the bag. Every round was a hit and he just made up damage. When I told him that I didn't want him at the game anymore, the above conversation (my first post) took place. Denied to high heaven that he'd ever cheated, even though everyone at the game saw it for quite a few sessions and he'd been called on it more than once.</p><p></p><p>2> Mr. Negativity. Didn't see this one coming. Suddenly the guy is "No that's not important. No we don't need to do that. No that's not the way you play that game. No I don't want to do that. No, you're wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no..." Just turned into a constant stream of negativity and invalidation of everything I said and did.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chimera, post: 3555350, member: 2002"] True enough. One of those three, his 'normal mode of operation' was a whole pile of neuroses and odd personal behavior wrapped in a blanket of Can't Pay Attention. He would regularly argue at great length about things that never would have been an issue if he'd actually been paying attention or if he'd only stop for 3 seconds and THINK about it. Such as the last straw, which was when he kept arguing with me about (allegedly) one kobold casting multiple spells each round. Now stop and think. The basic rule of the game is one spell per creature per round. There were scores of Kobolds present at the battle and I would point at one and say "this one casts x". But he got it into his head that I was having one kobold cast 6-8 spells per round and thus the argument. Five times I tried to tell him that wasn't what had happened and that it was different kobolds casting different spells. I went from facing him to facing 120 degrees away, giving him the "talk to the hand" gesture. He still kept arguing it. Finally I broke down, yelled and swore at him that his criticism was not valid. His reaction was to pause, say "Oh, I see what I'm doing wrong. I was phrasing it as a criticism when I should have been making a suggestion. I should be SUGGESTING that you shouldn't have one kobold casting all those spells..." :confused: Then of course, the topper was to regularly accuse me of anger management problems because I (shock of all shocks) would get angry at the constant arguing about stupidly obvious things like that example, and his absolute inability to listen to the person he was arguing with. (He actually said once or twice "I'm so sure that my idea is right that if the other person isn't agreeing with me, I think that I'm just not making my point right and I have to try harder." (Um, maybe try listening???)) The other two people I dumped were; 1> The friend who was rapidly becoming Not Friend. The Bruce I mentioned above. Screwed me royally on a batch of home brew we did together. Did a few other not friendly things too. Then started blatantly cheating at the game table. The last time he didn't even bother to pull his dice out of the bag. Every round was a hit and he just made up damage. When I told him that I didn't want him at the game anymore, the above conversation (my first post) took place. Denied to high heaven that he'd ever cheated, even though everyone at the game saw it for quite a few sessions and he'd been called on it more than once. 2> Mr. Negativity. Didn't see this one coming. Suddenly the guy is "No that's not important. No we don't need to do that. No that's not the way you play that game. No I don't want to do that. No, you're wrong. No, no, no, no, no, no..." Just turned into a constant stream of negativity and invalidation of everything I said and did. [/QUOTE]
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