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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 2523236" data-attributes="member: 12037">It kills about as often as CDG, in my experience. Just two sessions ago, the PCs had to try three CDGs on an enemy before killing him. I was doing all I could to keep from falling down laughing. Wizard trys CDG and horribly fails. Favored Soul tries CDG and he makes the saving throw. Monk tries CDG and finally fells him.AFAIK, that's not an uncommon house rule, and a fairly good one in my book. I don't use it, but I would if my players wanted to.Re: Ghouls. IMC it all depends on how hungry they are. If these are fairly well fed ghouls, then they'll be coniving, evil, and devious. If they're starving, then they'll pursue food until sated, taking bites out of paralyzed enemies even if it isn't tactically advisable. After a CDG (they've gulped down some flesh) they might realize they need to fight off the others or they might just keep eating! Usually ghouls are in packs, so this isn't as suicidal as you might think. That's how I do it at least.</blockquote>