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<blockquote data-quote="Destan" data-source="post: 2526440" data-attributes="member: 12157"><p>Cutman,</p><p></p><p>I'd sorta turned this thread off in my mind because it's spiraled into gripe/counter-gripe. But I know you, have gamed with you, and respect your opinion...so your words shook me out of my self-induced lethargy. Plus, you're sorta good looking.*</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I hear you. I would contend that my players don't feel I'm "out to get them". Again, we've had one PC death in what would equate to about 10 levels of core rules gaming (4 PCs total). I do run, however, a fairly "grim" or "realistic" or whatever damned canned word we want to use campaign. In this type of campaign, a PC can and has died in combats that are not climatic showdowns. I've killed PCs with random encounters before.</p><p></p><p>Before you guys throw things at me, let me say: <strong>I understand this is not for everyone.</strong></p><p></p><p>But you know what - it works for us. My players were fine, are fine, and will continue to be fine with the whole Ghoul Incident. Their major complaint/question had to do with a rules-related issue. Regardless, I'll admit I felt a bit guilty about killing the character with a CDG (which I had never done before). Though we played this session online, I did get the sense my players did think - if only briefly - "Uh...you sure the ghoul would do that?" So, again, that also prompted me to question my action.</p><p></p><p>Alas, I came to the boards. In my experience with EN World, you usually get your answer in the first 4-5 posts after you ask a question. If the thread continues long after that, you start to see a lot of sniping and whining and holier-than-thou B.S. </p><p></p><p>It ain't my bag, baby. </p><p></p><p>I heard some very good advice, however, which I mentioned earlier but I think bears repeating. I should have: 1) hinted to the players that Mr. Ghoul intends to do something nasty, and 2) allowed a CDG to be disrupted via a AoO (or otherwise twisted the RAW to be more 'realistic'). Not sure how/if I'll change the rules, but you folks definitely gave me some good food for thought.</p><p></p><p>For those of you who would have CDG'd the PC, we think alike. For those who would not have, we don't think alike. Our campaigns may or may not be similar. You may not like playing in my campaign. I may not like playing in yours. Your ghouls may take hostages, mine may chew brains. Why the hell does it matter? If folks around the table are having fun, continue doing what you're doing. If not, then you've got other fish to fry.</p><p></p><p>Play your campaign, I'll play mine, and we'll all be happy little dice-carrying nerds as we continue to pursue our hobby.</p><p></p><p>Back into shiftlessness mode,</p><p>D</p><p></p><p></p><p>* Pogre and Old One both meet those other pre-requisites, but failed on the 'good looking' part, so their posts were not enough to drag me back in here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Destan, post: 2526440, member: 12157"] Cutman, I'd sorta turned this thread off in my mind because it's spiraled into gripe/counter-gripe. But I know you, have gamed with you, and respect your opinion...so your words shook me out of my self-induced lethargy. Plus, you're sorta good looking.* Anyway, I hear you. I would contend that my players don't feel I'm "out to get them". Again, we've had one PC death in what would equate to about 10 levels of core rules gaming (4 PCs total). I do run, however, a fairly "grim" or "realistic" or whatever damned canned word we want to use campaign. In this type of campaign, a PC can and has died in combats that are not climatic showdowns. I've killed PCs with random encounters before. Before you guys throw things at me, let me say: [b]I understand this is not for everyone.[/b] But you know what - it works for us. My players were fine, are fine, and will continue to be fine with the whole Ghoul Incident. Their major complaint/question had to do with a rules-related issue. Regardless, I'll admit I felt a bit guilty about killing the character with a CDG (which I had never done before). Though we played this session online, I did get the sense my players did think - if only briefly - "Uh...you sure the ghoul would do that?" So, again, that also prompted me to question my action. Alas, I came to the boards. In my experience with EN World, you usually get your answer in the first 4-5 posts after you ask a question. If the thread continues long after that, you start to see a lot of sniping and whining and holier-than-thou B.S. It ain't my bag, baby. I heard some very good advice, however, which I mentioned earlier but I think bears repeating. I should have: 1) hinted to the players that Mr. Ghoul intends to do something nasty, and 2) allowed a CDG to be disrupted via a AoO (or otherwise twisted the RAW to be more 'realistic'). Not sure how/if I'll change the rules, but you folks definitely gave me some good food for thought. For those of you who would have CDG'd the PC, we think alike. For those who would not have, we don't think alike. Our campaigns may or may not be similar. You may not like playing in my campaign. I may not like playing in yours. Your ghouls may take hostages, mine may chew brains. Why the hell does it matter? If folks around the table are having fun, continue doing what you're doing. If not, then you've got other fish to fry. Play your campaign, I'll play mine, and we'll all be happy little dice-carrying nerds as we continue to pursue our hobby. Back into shiftlessness mode, D * Pogre and Old One both meet those other pre-requisites, but failed on the 'good looking' part, so their posts were not enough to drag me back in here. [/QUOTE]
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