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<blockquote data-quote="D+1" data-source="post: 2070443" data-attributes="member: 13654">It's fun to at least ONCE get to throw some of those high-level spells and have a fighter really lay out the damage like a blender set to frappe', but in a sense you're not actually &quot;missing out&quot;.&nbsp; It's not the abilities themselves but what you do with them.I have CONSISTENTLY had more fun playing and DMing at PC levels below 10th than above that.&nbsp; The few times it has gotten above that by a significant amount (unless PC's begin to retire and get replaced by 1st/low levels) the entire tone of the campaign changes - by necessity as has been pointed out by others - simply because the PC capabilities no longer scale well to the things they've been doing.&nbsp; The power level has to spike considerably to keep PC's challenged.&nbsp; Also, in 3E, PC's seem to end up with so MANY capabilities, so many magic items, that they can hardly even track it all, much less make decent use of much of it.&nbsp; So much of the shiny new whupass they've been opening up simply goes unused until those moments when they are absolutely scrambling and digging deep to try and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.THAT is what &quot;epic&quot; is by the way.&nbsp; It has little to do with simply having more than 20 levels.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="D+1, post: 2070443, member: 13654"] It's fun to at least ONCE get to throw some of those high-level spells and have a fighter really lay out the damage like a blender set to frappe', but in a sense you're not actually "missing out". It's not the abilities themselves but what you do with them. I have CONSISTENTLY had more fun playing and DMing at PC levels below 10th than above that. The few times it has gotten above that by a significant amount (unless PC's begin to retire and get replaced by 1st/low levels) the entire tone of the campaign changes - by necessity as has been pointed out by others - simply because the PC capabilities no longer scale well to the things they've been doing. The power level has to spike considerably to keep PC's challenged. Also, in 3E, PC's seem to end up with so MANY capabilities, so many magic items, that they can hardly even track it all, much less make decent use of much of it. So much of the shiny new whupass they've been opening up simply goes unused until those moments when they are absolutely scrambling and digging deep to try and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. THAT is what "epic" is by the way. It has little to do with simply having more than 20 levels. [/QUOTE]

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