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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8393735" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I just find this so weird, how emphatic everyone is to defend that there is no possible way a DM could ever cheat. Using loaded dice? Nope, they are the DM, not cheating. Not accurately recording damage information? DMs do what they want, no cheating. Using 1st level slots to cast 4th level spells? DM, can’t possibly be cheating. Automatically critting on every attack? Are they still the DM, then it still isn’t cheating.</p><p></p><p>Yet, if a player did any of the things I’ve discussed, you and everyone else would likely boot them immediately because you won’t let cheaters at your table. And this dichotomy isn’t healthy I don’t think. These sorts of double standards that insulate the role of DM from that of the other people sitting at the table.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And he didn’t say it was a cultural thing until his response to you. In fact, in the response to me, he said it was based off of his LARPing experience and time working for charitable organizations, not European culture.</p><p></p><p>If he had said “In European culture we always give more respect to people who do more work, and since the DM does more work we give them more respect” then I would have responded differently, but his post was “The DM does more work, so they get more respect”. So I judged his statement by his words, not by an assumption about a culture I don’t share.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Can you be bad enough at cheating to intend to cheat but be unable to pull it off? Is the intent to cheat therefore enough to have it considered cheating, even if it would be considered “impossible” to actually pull it off?</p><p></p><p>Again, I have to wonder, why are people so invested in this idea that under no circumstances could a DM ever be capable of cheating in any way shape or form. Because to remind you, my initial premise was “It is possible for DMs to cheat to, so since we aren’t talking about cheating DMs, why bring up cheating players?” and since then it has become a deluge of people stating that absolutely a DM is incapable of cheating and nothing they do, no matter how damaging to the game, could be considered cheating. What value are we getting out of this assertion? Why does it matter so much that the DM is incapable of cheating? Are you scared that if you admit it is possible that homebrewing will suddenly wither and die?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8393735, member: 6801228"] I just find this so weird, how emphatic everyone is to defend that there is no possible way a DM could ever cheat. Using loaded dice? Nope, they are the DM, not cheating. Not accurately recording damage information? DMs do what they want, no cheating. Using 1st level slots to cast 4th level spells? DM, can’t possibly be cheating. Automatically critting on every attack? Are they still the DM, then it still isn’t cheating. Yet, if a player did any of the things I’ve discussed, you and everyone else would likely boot them immediately because you won’t let cheaters at your table. And this dichotomy isn’t healthy I don’t think. These sorts of double standards that insulate the role of DM from that of the other people sitting at the table. And he didn’t say it was a cultural thing until his response to you. In fact, in the response to me, he said it was based off of his LARPing experience and time working for charitable organizations, not European culture. If he had said “In European culture we always give more respect to people who do more work, and since the DM does more work we give them more respect” then I would have responded differently, but his post was “The DM does more work, so they get more respect”. So I judged his statement by his words, not by an assumption about a culture I don’t share. Can you be bad enough at cheating to intend to cheat but be unable to pull it off? Is the intent to cheat therefore enough to have it considered cheating, even if it would be considered “impossible” to actually pull it off? Again, I have to wonder, why are people so invested in this idea that under no circumstances could a DM ever be capable of cheating in any way shape or form. Because to remind you, my initial premise was “It is possible for DMs to cheat to, so since we aren’t talking about cheating DMs, why bring up cheating players?” and since then it has become a deluge of people stating that absolutely a DM is incapable of cheating and nothing they do, no matter how damaging to the game, could be considered cheating. What value are we getting out of this assertion? Why does it matter so much that the DM is incapable of cheating? Are you scared that if you admit it is possible that homebrewing will suddenly wither and die? [/QUOTE]
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