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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8394223" data-attributes="member: 23751">1. They can accuse the DM of cheating, milking a male cat or whatever else.&nbsp; Accusations are just accusations. 2. They would be wrong.&nbsp; That would not be cheating, but it would be an equally bad situation where the DM is abusing his authority.3. Abuse of authority breeds a lack of trust in the DM.&nbsp; Sometimes lack of trust is the player's fault.&nbsp; I've seen many arguments here where it's based on nothing more than some sort of personal player fear.&nbsp; That's not on the DM.&nbsp; Sometimes it's the DM's fault and is based on power abuses.&nbsp; That's on him and the players should find a new DM.You're drastically overgeneralizing based on the words of a very few people on a forum with a very small percent of the player base, though.&nbsp; Extremes are bad.&nbsp; Trying to change a game based on a few examples of extremes is itself an extreme reaction and is also bad.It rarely happens, but when it does it's almost always a character flaw of the DM, which none of your &quot;fixes&quot; actually fix.&nbsp; The solution as I point out above is to get a new DM.If it's impossible to cheat(the DM), it's also impossible to make an attempt to cheat.&nbsp; It's just the DM changing a rule per RAW. In D&amp;D only the players can make an attempt to cheat.&nbsp; They can make an attempt and then either succeed or fail.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8394223, member: 23751"] 1. They can accuse the DM of cheating, milking a male cat or whatever else. Accusations are just accusations. 2. They would be wrong. That would not be cheating, but it would be an equally bad situation where the DM is abusing his authority. 3. Abuse of authority breeds a lack of trust in the DM. Sometimes lack of trust is the player's fault. I've seen many arguments here where it's based on nothing more than some sort of personal player fear. That's not on the DM. Sometimes it's the DM's fault and is based on power abuses. That's on him and the players should find a new DM. You're drastically overgeneralizing based on the words of a very few people on a forum with a very small percent of the player base, though. Extremes are bad. Trying to change a game based on a few examples of extremes is itself an extreme reaction and is also bad. It rarely happens, but when it does it's almost always a character flaw of the DM, which none of your "fixes" actually fix. The solution as I point out above is to get a new DM. If it's impossible to cheat(the DM), it's also impossible to make an attempt to cheat. It's just the DM changing a rule per RAW. In D&D only the players can make an attempt to cheat. They can make an attempt and then either succeed or fail. [/QUOTE]

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