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DM's: How transparent are you with game mechanics "in world?"
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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8394611" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>And those power abuses seem far more likely when you say that they can never break the rules, never cheat, because it is a very small step from that to never doing anything wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not talking about changing the game at all. You seem to somehow think that the DM being an unquestioned ultimate authority who has full power to enact any change they want and perform any action they want is part and parcel of the workings of the game. And, if your claim is so extreme that NOTHING is beyond the DMs power, then the other side can safely go extreme in testing the limits of that claim. </p><p></p><p>Yet, you hold firm, and I think that leads to more problems in the community than anything helpful. I don't think there is any other RPG that holds "ultimate authority of the GM" as something they encourage, and I don't think anyone has said that that is the best selling point of DnD.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My "fix" is to get a new DM. But to also acknowledge that they were cheating. IF you go to someone and say "my DM was abusing their authority over the game" they are just as likely to think you are a whining player than to think that you have a legitimate complaint. "The DM cheated" is much more succinct and holds much more weight. </p><p></p><p>Also, shockingly, I never claimed that being a cheater wasn't a character flaw, so saying that "these issues are only a character flaw in the DM" also doesn't dispute anything I'm saying.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And I think the game is poorer if he have a double standard where only one sub-set of players of the game are capable of cheating, while the others can do anything and never cheat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8394611, member: 6801228"] And those power abuses seem far more likely when you say that they can never break the rules, never cheat, because it is a very small step from that to never doing anything wrong. I'm not talking about changing the game at all. You seem to somehow think that the DM being an unquestioned ultimate authority who has full power to enact any change they want and perform any action they want is part and parcel of the workings of the game. And, if your claim is so extreme that NOTHING is beyond the DMs power, then the other side can safely go extreme in testing the limits of that claim. Yet, you hold firm, and I think that leads to more problems in the community than anything helpful. I don't think there is any other RPG that holds "ultimate authority of the GM" as something they encourage, and I don't think anyone has said that that is the best selling point of DnD. My "fix" is to get a new DM. But to also acknowledge that they were cheating. IF you go to someone and say "my DM was abusing their authority over the game" they are just as likely to think you are a whining player than to think that you have a legitimate complaint. "The DM cheated" is much more succinct and holds much more weight. Also, shockingly, I never claimed that being a cheater wasn't a character flaw, so saying that "these issues are only a character flaw in the DM" also doesn't dispute anything I'm saying. And I think the game is poorer if he have a double standard where only one sub-set of players of the game are capable of cheating, while the others can do anything and never cheat. [/QUOTE]
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