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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8397126" data-attributes="member: 23751">No it's not.&nbsp; Those kinds of DMs will break the rules and change things anyway.&nbsp; The abuses will be about the same with the same result.&nbsp; Lost players.Except that it doesn't.&nbsp; The number of abusers doesn't change, because the vast majority of us aren't douches and aren't going to abuse the game regardless, and the few that are will do it regardless of any limitations.You can't redesign RPGs for that, either.Bad DMs will still use weighted dice(modifying that saw so it cuts flesh anyway).&nbsp; Non-bad DMs would never have used weighted dice in the first place, so you're attempting to fix a problem that isn't fixable, nor even really much of a problem.&nbsp; Just leave the game and have fun with someone else.Nope.&nbsp; It's impossible to redesign the game in that manner.&nbsp; Even if you put into the rules that the players can outvote the DM, a bad DM will just ignore that rule and push on.&nbsp; The only real recourse for a bad DM is leaving the game and getting another DM.I've had bad GM experiences with both Vampire the Masquerade and Exalted.&nbsp; This is not a D&amp;D specific thing and I sincerely doubt it happens in any lower percentage of games with other game systems.&nbsp; You just hear less about it, because far fewer people play those systems.Utterly wrong, but understanding me(and others from what I can see) isn't your strong suit.Maybe you're new here, but I've been present on this site for years and you will be told(in some manner) that you did something wrong with just about any position you take.No.&nbsp; It's rare regardless of your opinion.&nbsp; All rare means is that it doesn't occur very often.&nbsp;&nbsp; You seem to want it to mean unique or almost never found.&nbsp; It doesn't mean that.Wrong again!&nbsp; I never said that you implied that he was a liar.&nbsp; I said straight out that you did what I did, which was accuse him of being mistaken.&nbsp; That's it.He has accused you of saying he was a liar.&nbsp; I don't agree with that.&nbsp; You just called him mistaken about things he experienced with his life and you did not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8397126, member: 23751"] No it's not. Those kinds of DMs will break the rules and change things anyway. The abuses will be about the same with the same result. Lost players. Except that it doesn't. The number of abusers doesn't change, because the vast majority of us aren't douches and aren't going to abuse the game regardless, and the few that are will do it regardless of any limitations. You can't redesign RPGs for that, either. Bad DMs will still use weighted dice(modifying that saw so it cuts flesh anyway). Non-bad DMs would never have used weighted dice in the first place, so you're attempting to fix a problem that isn't fixable, nor even really much of a problem. Just leave the game and have fun with someone else. Nope. It's impossible to redesign the game in that manner. Even if you put into the rules that the players can outvote the DM, a bad DM will just ignore that rule and push on. The only real recourse for a bad DM is leaving the game and getting another DM. I've had bad GM experiences with both Vampire the Masquerade and Exalted. This is not a D&D specific thing and I sincerely doubt it happens in any lower percentage of games with other game systems. You just hear less about it, because far fewer people play those systems. Utterly wrong, but understanding me(and others from what I can see) isn't your strong suit. Maybe you're new here, but I've been present on this site for years and you will be told(in some manner) that you did something wrong with just about any position you take. No. It's rare regardless of your opinion. All rare means is that it doesn't occur very often. You seem to want it to mean unique or almost never found. It doesn't mean that. Wrong again! I never said that you implied that he was a liar. I said straight out that you did what I did, which was accuse him of being mistaken. That's it. He has accused you of saying he was a liar. I don't agree with that. You just called him mistaken about things he experienced with his life and you did not. [/QUOTE]

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