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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Set" data-source="post: 5478747" data-attributes="member: 41584">The player who plays the Paladin, cavalier, knight, ventrue, high-status character and uses that to lord it over the other PCs. I've seen this *almost* as many times as I've seen a paladin in the game, with almost inevitable PVP ensuing when someone casts a spell on a foe the paladin is fighting and 'stealing his kill' or 'violating the terms of honorable combat' or some such twaddle, or *the rest of the party* decides to assign the magic wand found to the magic-user, and the Paladin flips out because he didn't get a fair share (of a wand? What, are we to break it into fifths?) and stabs the mage in the back and justifies that because he was just roleplaying a proper lawful character of higher standing than the mage. More than I have ever experienced with people playing evil characters, it seems like 'paladin' or, worse, 'paladin-cavalier' (back in the days of 1e Unearthed Arcana) is catnip for douchey players on an ego-trip. The excuse 'I was just role-playing!' after stealing something from another PC, or killing another PC, or sabotaging a situation so that the party gets wiped out (the most common paladin tactic, being a prick in a social situation guaranteed to get the rest of the party killed, or attacking town guards or merchants or *the King* for being 'disrespectful' or 'dishonorable') is very, very played out... Our 'solution' was to go ten years discouraging anyone from playing a paladin, unless we already knew them well and knew that they were the sort of player we'd trust playing a chaotic evil sociopath with a license to murder anyone who violated a whimsical made up code of standards, subject to creative re-interpretation at their whim.  Only then could they play a paladin.</blockquote>

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