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Message: <blockquote data-quote="boar" data-source="post: 5028327" data-attributes="member: 81932">One of the interesting things I see in this discussion is the near universal assumption that the DM is vindictive. Let's not forget the possibility that he's inept or just stupid. It's possible that he truly had no idea his encounter sucked or that the players were unhappy. Talk to the DM. If your conversation confirms that he is, in fact, a vindictive, immature powergamer, well, that sucks. But you may instead discover that the DM has a "holy crap!!" moment when you inform him that his encounter was terrible. A final point of note is that 9 player parties really blow. They make for long, dragged-out encounters almost no matter what the DM does. However poorly your DM acted, it's important to note that the odds were quite heavily stacked against him.</blockquote>