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<blockquote data-quote="DarkLord Of DForce" data-source="post: 5028598" data-attributes="member: 85416"><p>I understand - at level 10. with the examples I've posted, you're looking at a small slice of our overall campaign.</p><p></p><p>Sure, we do some role-playing, some exploration with puzzles, etc,. I'd rate the DMs pretty good overall at balancing this part of gameplay.</p><p></p><p>I think that probably, short of a party wipe, that the rest of the group will sit and take it. Last 2 sessions, with the ultra-high AC creatures we're fighting, they just rolled their eyes when we kept missing. I know what they were *thinking*, but other than "you mean a 31 missed???" they didn't say anything. I dunno.</p><p></p><p>Last session, our level 9 characters fought level 15 Drow Inquisitors.</p><p></p><p>At Saturdays session, we fought 2 level 15 Chimera's on the road to the Tower where we fought the level 17 Stone Golems.</p><p></p><p>The DMs used the triple attack of the Chimera's for their basic and Opportunity Attacks. I believe that was actually an honest mistake though. But it sure did deal out a lot of extra punishment.</p><p></p><p>My son, with his Warlord, at one point moved past a Chimera, and being a rather brash youth, told the DM he'd take the OA. The DM rolled all 3 attacks, the last one criticaled, and Kyle's Warlord went smack! and hit the ground. The sad part about this was Kyle, and 2 other players watched the damage roll on one OA and the 2 D6's stopped tilted sideways on a folder. Our table ruling has always been that you re-roll any die that isn't flat on the table, or whatever surface you're using. The DM calmly picked up the 2 die and set them both down as 6's. Kyle immediately objected, and the DM told him he didn't have to reroll and the other guy who swaps out as DM immediately agreed with the current DM. Kyle said that wasn't fair and they gave the all argument ending standard answer, "the DM said so and thats the end of that". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>So there ya go....</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I'm about tired of even complaining about them - I've mostly posted these messages here at Enworld, where I know a lot of D&D fans and veterans are, just to see if this kind of DM behavior is typical or atypical. From the majority of responses I've received I think not.</p><p></p><p>I surely do thank everyone for their replies, insights and opinions. Its all educational for me. </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkLord Of DForce, post: 5028598, member: 85416"] I understand - at level 10. with the examples I've posted, you're looking at a small slice of our overall campaign. Sure, we do some role-playing, some exploration with puzzles, etc,. I'd rate the DMs pretty good overall at balancing this part of gameplay. I think that probably, short of a party wipe, that the rest of the group will sit and take it. Last 2 sessions, with the ultra-high AC creatures we're fighting, they just rolled their eyes when we kept missing. I know what they were *thinking*, but other than "you mean a 31 missed???" they didn't say anything. I dunno. Last session, our level 9 characters fought level 15 Drow Inquisitors. At Saturdays session, we fought 2 level 15 Chimera's on the road to the Tower where we fought the level 17 Stone Golems. The DMs used the triple attack of the Chimera's for their basic and Opportunity Attacks. I believe that was actually an honest mistake though. But it sure did deal out a lot of extra punishment. My son, with his Warlord, at one point moved past a Chimera, and being a rather brash youth, told the DM he'd take the OA. The DM rolled all 3 attacks, the last one criticaled, and Kyle's Warlord went smack! and hit the ground. The sad part about this was Kyle, and 2 other players watched the damage roll on one OA and the 2 D6's stopped tilted sideways on a folder. Our table ruling has always been that you re-roll any die that isn't flat on the table, or whatever surface you're using. The DM calmly picked up the 2 die and set them both down as 6's. Kyle immediately objected, and the DM told him he didn't have to reroll and the other guy who swaps out as DM immediately agreed with the current DM. Kyle said that wasn't fair and they gave the all argument ending standard answer, "the DM said so and thats the end of that". :( So there ya go.... Honestly, I'm about tired of even complaining about them - I've mostly posted these messages here at Enworld, where I know a lot of D&D fans and veterans are, just to see if this kind of DM behavior is typical or atypical. From the majority of responses I've received I think not. I surely do thank everyone for their replies, insights and opinions. Its all educational for me. :) [/QUOTE]
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