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DMs what do you think of the new PHB?
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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 9457948" data-attributes="member: 54629"><p>I dunno. I think the biggest difference for me is the target audience.</p><p></p><p>The 2014 PHB was written to appeal to existing gamers (mainly Boomers, Gen Xers, and older millennials like myself) and convince the split fanbase to reunite under the D&D banner. It employs heavy doses of nostalgia as well as verbal gymnastics (aka "natural language") designed to avoid referencing the edition that split the fanbase.</p><p></p><p>The 2024 PHB, however, has been written with new players (mainly the younger millennials, Gen Zers, and older Gen Alphas) in mind. There's less nostalgia in its design, and some of the previously forbidden terminology has returned (e.g. "bloodied"). I think it will serve as an excellent resource for teaching newbies. But will it provide a different playstyle or worldbuilding style?</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure about playstyle - things like the weapon masteries and the team tactics stuff that's been added in will make the game more tactical but otherwise I think it will mostly play the same.</p><p></p><p>It's more likely it will change worldbuilding styles, though - especially since there's very little "default" setting material in the 2024 PHB. There was a lot in the 2014 version as part of the nostalgia factor -- it used Bruenor Battlehammer, Drizz't Do'Urden, and Tika Waylan, among others, as examples throughout and had tables of deities from different settings and so forth; the 2024 version has jettisoned a lot of that, and while the book mentions a few settings and setting-specific things here and there, it's mostly neutral on worldbuilding stuff. </p><p></p><p>That vibe might change once the 2024 DMG is out, since it is going to include a setting primer for Greyhawk specifically (as part of the 50th anniversary celebration). That said, I suspect the 2024 DMG will also provide more guidance on building your own world and setting, so I don't think it will be overtly Greyhawk-centric, like the 3.5e books were (or like how the 2014 PHB is fairly FR-centric). Greyhawk will simply be presented as a sample setting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 9457948, member: 54629"] I dunno. I think the biggest difference for me is the target audience. The 2014 PHB was written to appeal to existing gamers (mainly Boomers, Gen Xers, and older millennials like myself) and convince the split fanbase to reunite under the D&D banner. It employs heavy doses of nostalgia as well as verbal gymnastics (aka "natural language") designed to avoid referencing the edition that split the fanbase. The 2024 PHB, however, has been written with new players (mainly the younger millennials, Gen Zers, and older Gen Alphas) in mind. There's less nostalgia in its design, and some of the previously forbidden terminology has returned (e.g. "bloodied"). I think it will serve as an excellent resource for teaching newbies. But will it provide a different playstyle or worldbuilding style? I'm not sure about playstyle - things like the weapon masteries and the team tactics stuff that's been added in will make the game more tactical but otherwise I think it will mostly play the same. It's more likely it will change worldbuilding styles, though - especially since there's very little "default" setting material in the 2024 PHB. There was a lot in the 2014 version as part of the nostalgia factor -- it used Bruenor Battlehammer, Drizz't Do'Urden, and Tika Waylan, among others, as examples throughout and had tables of deities from different settings and so forth; the 2024 version has jettisoned a lot of that, and while the book mentions a few settings and setting-specific things here and there, it's mostly neutral on worldbuilding stuff. That vibe might change once the 2024 DMG is out, since it is going to include a setting primer for Greyhawk specifically (as part of the 50th anniversary celebration). That said, I suspect the 2024 DMG will also provide more guidance on building your own world and setting, so I don't think it will be overtly Greyhawk-centric, like the 3.5e books were (or like how the 2014 PHB is fairly FR-centric). Greyhawk will simply be presented as a sample setting. [/QUOTE]
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