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<blockquote data-quote="dreaded_beast" data-source="post: 1429263" data-attributes="member: 11185">The recent talk of minis has caused me to remember my former DMs quiet dislike of using minis (and maps) for combat.Reasons:1. He believed the group to be too &quot;immature&quot; to use minis without disrupting the game. This is a group where the youngest player is 27.2. He believed minis would &quot;detract&quot; from the game since they were almost never the perfect representation of the creature/NPC encountered.3. It would take away time from the actual session by having to draw the battlefield and place the minis on the map.In my opinion, I believe that minis and maps for combat are a good thing.I think my DM had a high opinion of his ability to &quot;describe&quot; the placement of characters, the description of the battlefield, etc. However, what he usually envisioned did not always mesh with what the players envisioned.And if we made a tactical mistake in combat, it was because of our inability to fully grasp the &quot;description&quot; of combat. In his words, &quot;I described the situation perfectly.&quot;There were many times when we would say, I walk over to so and so, only to be greeted with an AoO because we didn't realize we where in melee range of an enemy. Or we didn't attack a particular enemy because we thought he was too far away, but in reality, wasn't.We could ask questions about placement of creatures, the battlefield, etc., but if we started asking &quot;too many&quot; questions, the DM would get frustrated and berate us for not understanding his descriptions. We could never change an action that we based from a misinterpretation of a description.Anyway, sorry for the rant, but for the DMs who do not use minis, why don't you and what have your experiences been? What are the pros and have you ever experienced situations similar to the above?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dreaded_beast, post: 1429263, member: 11185"] The recent talk of minis has caused me to remember my former DMs quiet dislike of using minis (and maps) for combat. Reasons: 1. He believed the group to be too "immature" to use minis without disrupting the game. This is a group where the youngest player is 27. 2. He believed minis would "detract" from the game since they were almost never the perfect representation of the creature/NPC encountered. 3. It would take away time from the actual session by having to draw the battlefield and place the minis on the map. In my opinion, I believe that minis and maps for combat are a good thing. I think my DM had a high opinion of his ability to "describe" the placement of characters, the description of the battlefield, etc. However, what he usually envisioned did not always mesh with what the players envisioned. And if we made a tactical mistake in combat, it was because of our inability to fully grasp the "description" of combat. In his words, "I described the situation perfectly." There were many times when we would say, I walk over to so and so, only to be greeted with an AoO because we didn't realize we where in melee range of an enemy. Or we didn't attack a particular enemy because we thought he was too far away, but in reality, wasn't. We could ask questions about placement of creatures, the battlefield, etc., but if we started asking "too many" questions, the DM would get frustrated and berate us for not understanding his descriptions. We could never change an action that we based from a misinterpretation of a description. Anyway, sorry for the rant, but for the DMs who do not use minis, why don't you and what have your experiences been? What are the pros and have you ever experienced situations similar to the above? [/QUOTE]

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