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<blockquote data-quote="Qualir" data-source="post: 1429579" data-attributes="member: 17391">I resisted minis for years. My group tended to play on couches in the living room with only coffee tables and notebooks to roll dice on. Using miniatures has replaced that relaxed atmosphere and my extra comfy lazy boy with a dinning room table. My desciptions were not perfect for tactics, but questions like &quot;how many orcs are cought in the fireball&quot; were answered with a random die roll.3 E changed all that. 3 E combat feats are definitely built along tactical guidelines. I gave in to minis, but I rarely draw more than a simple box on the grid to represent room size (furniture was made to be destroyed, kicked out of the way, or jumped over). I have to admit that minis add a great visual and keep down the randomness of AoE dice rolls. My new problem is that one of my players is a professional freelance artist and art teacher who happens to have a one tract mind. Minis have become his new obsession and we constantly have to stop him from giving disertations on how he painted this or that mini. Granted, they look awesome, but I have no interest in the process, and he can go on talking about it forever. We game at this player's house. He insists on painting minis at the table, which means he pays no attention to me, the DM, or any of his fellow players. We frequently have to ask him several times, and very loudly, what his character is doing. We are used to this in role play (he is total hack and slash and not interested in anything that doesn't result in blood), but now we have to deal with it during combat as well. I miss my comfy lazy boy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Qualir, post: 1429579, member: 17391"] I resisted minis for years. My group tended to play on couches in the living room with only coffee tables and notebooks to roll dice on. Using miniatures has replaced that relaxed atmosphere and my extra comfy lazy boy with a dinning room table. My desciptions were not perfect for tactics, but questions like "how many orcs are cought in the fireball" were answered with a random die roll. 3 E changed all that. 3 E combat feats are definitely built along tactical guidelines. I gave in to minis, but I rarely draw more than a simple box on the grid to represent room size (furniture was made to be destroyed, kicked out of the way, or jumped over). I have to admit that minis add a great visual and keep down the randomness of AoE dice rolls. My new problem is that one of my players is a professional freelance artist and art teacher who happens to have a one tract mind. Minis have become his new obsession and we constantly have to stop him from giving disertations on how he painted this or that mini. Granted, they look awesome, but I have no interest in the process, and he can go on talking about it forever. We game at this player's house. He insists on painting minis at the table, which means he pays no attention to me, the DM, or any of his fellow players. We frequently have to ask him several times, and very loudly, what his character is doing. We are used to this in role play (he is total hack and slash and not interested in anything that doesn't result in blood), but now we have to deal with it during combat as well. I miss my comfy lazy boy. [/QUOTE]

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