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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5475176" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Ok. Not my thing, but at least something is going on.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Logically, yes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Logically, this background would make your character eligible for the those things, but it would not force your character to have those things. I have some guesses of my own about what is going on here based on what I would do with the story he seems to be introducing, and I would suggest relaxing and going with it.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course not. He's the story teller. He doesn't want to spoil his twists and explaining to you why you don't have wings and a breath weapon might spoil his story even if he has a logical explanation beyond - "Dude, I'm trying to make your character's family life more interesting, not increase your ECL. You want to talk fair, how fair is it to the rest of the party that I just go ahead an apply some +4 LA template to you?"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If this is the question, then my answer is "No template at all." You didn't pay for it and there isn't anything about the background that suggests you have to have a template, so there is no reason for you to have one. I might could be induced to write up some sort of 5 level PrC for your character where you'd slowly morph into a draconic creature if you had your heart set on it, but frankly I think that what the DM could be doing here might be even more interesting than that. I'm rather liking the whole idea of a monsterous character who doesn't look like one to the extent that he never knows he's one to the point he grows up identifying himself as something he turns out he isn't. I think that has story in it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends. If you left your background completely mysterious, then yes, I think it is. It raises interesting story questions, gives your character interesting relationships with NPC's, and gives you personal story arcs to explore. I think it's perfectly fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, yes he does. The DM never has to explain how something works to a player if the character himself doesn't have the information to know why something happened. And so far as I can tell, the DM has not made a mistake here. I haven't been a party to any of the conversations you've had, so I'm not in much room to judge based on having heard only one side of this, but I think you aren't being very fair to your friend. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I think that your position in this is borderline anti-social, and when it comes right down to it you are simply arguing for mechanical advantage on the basis of a creative back story. </p><p></p><p>Granted, the problem here may be that you didn't create the back story. If you had no input over the concept, "You are playing a character with magical amnesia.", I'm a bit uncomfortable with that. Nonetheless, if you agreed to play that character then you agreed to whatever happened as a result of it and you should stop griefing your DM.</p><p></p><p>Let me ask you two questions:</p><p></p><p>1) Is your DM normally a good DM?</p><p>2) Is your character a sorcerer?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5475176, member: 4937"] Ok. Not my thing, but at least something is going on. Logically, yes. No. Logically, this background would make your character eligible for the those things, but it would not force your character to have those things. I have some guesses of my own about what is going on here based on what I would do with the story he seems to be introducing, and I would suggest relaxing and going with it. Of course not. He's the story teller. He doesn't want to spoil his twists and explaining to you why you don't have wings and a breath weapon might spoil his story even if he has a logical explanation beyond - "Dude, I'm trying to make your character's family life more interesting, not increase your ECL. You want to talk fair, how fair is it to the rest of the party that I just go ahead an apply some +4 LA template to you?" If this is the question, then my answer is "No template at all." You didn't pay for it and there isn't anything about the background that suggests you have to have a template, so there is no reason for you to have one. I might could be induced to write up some sort of 5 level PrC for your character where you'd slowly morph into a draconic creature if you had your heart set on it, but frankly I think that what the DM could be doing here might be even more interesting than that. I'm rather liking the whole idea of a monsterous character who doesn't look like one to the extent that he never knows he's one to the point he grows up identifying himself as something he turns out he isn't. I think that has story in it. Depends. If you left your background completely mysterious, then yes, I think it is. It raises interesting story questions, gives your character interesting relationships with NPC's, and gives you personal story arcs to explore. I think it's perfectly fine. Yes, yes he does. The DM never has to explain how something works to a player if the character himself doesn't have the information to know why something happened. And so far as I can tell, the DM has not made a mistake here. I haven't been a party to any of the conversations you've had, so I'm not in much room to judge based on having heard only one side of this, but I think you aren't being very fair to your friend. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I think that your position in this is borderline anti-social, and when it comes right down to it you are simply arguing for mechanical advantage on the basis of a creative back story. Granted, the problem here may be that you didn't create the back story. If you had no input over the concept, "You are playing a character with magical amnesia.", I'm a bit uncomfortable with that. Nonetheless, if you agreed to play that character then you agreed to whatever happened as a result of it and you should stop griefing your DM. Let me ask you two questions: 1) Is your DM normally a good DM? 2) Is your character a sorcerer? [/QUOTE]
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