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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8609708" data-attributes="member: 7032025">Proof ?Proof ?Proof ? I'm sorry, but the fact that you want to play it that way is for me not reflected in the rules. Once more, alignment is not a straight jacket, never has been, and it's been repeated time and time again in all editions that most creatures except aligned planar ones are not consistent with alignment. Doing ONE act out of one's alignment is certainly not necessarily a reason for immediate change. It might, and then it might not, there are no RULES there (except in rare cases like 1e paladin, and even then it was not that black and white).Huh, no. Once more, you have a proof of that in the very argument that you make below.And that just shows that even planar creatures are not constrained by their alignemtn and it's not ONE act that changed things, but things over time, for a large part of a population.And this is the part that you are making out of nowhere. Where exactly does it say this ? In any edition ?This is your interpretation, but I don't think it's supported by anything rather than your personal view that it's that way. On the contrary, every description of alignment shows that it's not played that way, that people are not consistent with their alignment all the time, and that acts out of alignement don't cause a change immediately. There are shades within each alignement, minor actions will not affect it. But even if major actions might make a change, does not that mean that it can somewhat IGNORE what the past has been ? And this in any direction ?In any case, all of that is so much subject to a DM's interpretation that I will leave your personal interpretation to you, but to you only.Actually yes, I can, because I am a Planescape fan and I love these planes. But it's not what I was saying. Let's say that you are LG, first, there is little likelihood that you will, out of the blue, commit an act so hideous that it will shift you all the way to CE or even LE. As mentioned multiple times in multiple editions, few person are completely consistent, and ONE act will probably not make you shift. But even if you do shift, there are many gradations, assuming that it's no longer The Seven Heaven, you might go to Arcadia, Nirvana, Acheron, and it's very unlikely that you will go straight to the Nine Hells.</blockquote>

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