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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8755767" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>That seems ironically extremely narrow-minded. Apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic, and post-post-apocalyptic fiction can encompass almost limitless things, from Mad Max to Hunger Games to Station Eleven to the later two Annihilation books (and indeed much of Jeff Vandermeer's oeuvre generally) to Judge Dredd to JG Ballard's The Drowned World to The Triffids to Dawn of the Dead to Pacific Rim to Escape from New York to Invasion of the Body Snatchers to Apocalypso to Planet of the Apes to... I could literally go on all day.</p><p></p><p>If you consider that all that "intellectually lazy", I say to you sir, is it <em>you</em> who is being intellectually lazy < finger guns > by making such a sweeping and foolhardy statement! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> BOOM GOTCHA I say not entirely seriously <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>But more seriously you could not be more wrong lol, and it's easy to see, I can just keep listing apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic and post-post-apocalyptic stuff all day. It seems to me like you're thinking of a narrow survivalist-oriented subgenre which is basically Fallout to Mad Max and everything in-between. But even there stuff like Fallout 2 rejects the survivalist luddite "Men can be real men again!" thing, and so do the later Mad Maxes, Fury Road for example having Furiosa come from a utopian society which flourished after the apocalypse. Even the seminal texts of survivalist post-apocalyptic stuff often question their own basis - I Am Legend/The Omega Man being the most obvious example, and sheesh, A Boy and His Dog examines who deeply messed up the whole thing can be - and those are both from the '70s! In fact The Road sort of questions whether it's even worth surviving.</p><p></p><p>Also, objecting to post-apocalyptic (or rather post-post-apocalyptic) settings and wanting to change Dark Sun is like, objecting to Kitchen Sink settings and wanting to change the Forgotten Realms, or objecting to cars, and wanting to remove them from Mad Max lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8755767, member: 18"] That seems ironically extremely narrow-minded. Apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic, and post-post-apocalyptic fiction can encompass almost limitless things, from Mad Max to Hunger Games to Station Eleven to the later two Annihilation books (and indeed much of Jeff Vandermeer's oeuvre generally) to Judge Dredd to JG Ballard's The Drowned World to The Triffids to Dawn of the Dead to Pacific Rim to Escape from New York to Invasion of the Body Snatchers to Apocalypso to Planet of the Apes to... I could literally go on all day. If you consider that all that "intellectually lazy", I say to you sir, is it [I]you[/I] who is being intellectually lazy < finger guns > by making such a sweeping and foolhardy statement! :p BOOM GOTCHA I say not entirely seriously ;) But more seriously you could not be more wrong lol, and it's easy to see, I can just keep listing apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic and post-post-apocalyptic stuff all day. It seems to me like you're thinking of a narrow survivalist-oriented subgenre which is basically Fallout to Mad Max and everything in-between. But even there stuff like Fallout 2 rejects the survivalist luddite "Men can be real men again!" thing, and so do the later Mad Maxes, Fury Road for example having Furiosa come from a utopian society which flourished after the apocalypse. Even the seminal texts of survivalist post-apocalyptic stuff often question their own basis - I Am Legend/The Omega Man being the most obvious example, and sheesh, A Boy and His Dog examines who deeply messed up the whole thing can be - and those are both from the '70s! In fact The Road sort of questions whether it's even worth surviving. Also, objecting to post-apocalyptic (or rather post-post-apocalyptic) settings and wanting to change Dark Sun is like, objecting to Kitchen Sink settings and wanting to change the Forgotten Realms, or objecting to cars, and wanting to remove them from Mad Max lol. [/QUOTE]
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