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Message: <blockquote data-quote="W'rkncacnter" data-source="post: 8767744" data-attributes="member: 7033455">then you're reading it backwards - skills can modify any ability check, not the other way around. you can roll an ability check without accounting for a skill (e.g. you can make a flat intelligence check), but you can't roll a skill without accounting for an ability modifier. again, passive checks are explicitly ability checks. that's literally the first sentence of the section. and the using skills section (pg. 408) says (bold added for emphasis):in short - skills apply to ability checks. as for that not answering your question...yeah, that's my fault, i didn't read far enough ahead. i was getting ready for work and had just sort of assumed you were asking if ability modifiers applied to passive checks and was trying to clarify that yes, they do, without finishing the whole thing. i didn't see until now that you were asking if the narrator determines which ability bonus is used during a passive check. so, uh...sorry about that.the skills section does list the most common ability scores used with each skill in their appropriate section, but i wouldn't argue against a reminder in the passive checks section for the most likely passive skills.</blockquote>