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<blockquote data-quote="Zurai" data-source="post: 3631637" data-attributes="member: 52324">Incredibly bad example&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Sauron is actually one of the most subtle BBEGs in fantasy literature, at least at the beginning. You know how he made the One Ring so powerful? He showed all the other races how to make Rings of Power first, but he did it in a way that left the Rings vulnerable to control from the One Ring that he later crafted all by himself. Only the Elves were suspicious enough of him to not entirely heed his advice, which is why the Elven Rings are the only ones Sauron doesn't control at the start of Lord of the Rings (Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel have those three). Also, at one point he manages to bluff the GODS and the entire WORLD (except, as mentioned, the elves) into believing that no, really, he was misguided when he followed Morgoth and he's really a good guy now, honest, really.To answer your question, though: because BBEGs that just rely on brute force are pretty boring, and don't tend to live very long. Either they TPK the party, or the party kills them, or the BBEG deus ex machinas escape after escape until the players threaten to mutiny and the DM finally lets him die.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zurai, post: 3631637, member: 52324"] Incredibly bad example :p Sauron is actually one of the [i]most[/i] subtle BBEGs in fantasy literature, at least at the beginning. You know how he made the One Ring so powerful? He showed all the other races how to make Rings of Power first, but he did it in a way that left the Rings vulnerable to control from the One Ring that he later crafted all by himself. Only the Elves were suspicious enough of him to not entirely heed his advice, which is why the Elven Rings are the only ones Sauron doesn't control at the start of Lord of the Rings (Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel have those three). Also, at one point he manages to bluff the GODS and the entire WORLD (except, as mentioned, the elves) into believing that no, really, he was misguided when he followed Morgoth and he's really a good guy now, honest, really. To answer your question, though: because BBEGs that just rely on brute force are pretty boring, and don't tend to live very long. Either they TPK the party, or the party kills them, or the BBEG deus ex machinas escape after escape until the players threaten to mutiny and the DM finally lets him die. [/QUOTE]

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