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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6140884" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Perhaps I didn't express myself well, but I think you misunderstand me.</p><p></p><p>Mike Mearls has talked in the past about a desire to include all the races and all the classes that have been core in any previous edition of the game. Let's take that as our baseline*.</p><p></p><p>If they publish their core set, and it is missing some of those items, the edition will be dogged with endless complaints about them "spreading out the core", and about it being incomplete at release. We know this - we've seen exactly that behaviour with 4e.</p><p></p><p>If they publish their core set and it <em>does</em> include all those 'core' races and 'core' classes then they'll avoid that complaint (mostly - there will always be the unreasonable outliers). The problem with this approach, though, is that people will thank them, buy their $150 of core rules... and then never buy anything again. And we've seen <em>that</em> behaviour with 3e (most people buy <em>nothing</em>, a very large group buy a PHB only, a much smaller subset buy a PHB and a splatbook, and then it drops off dramatically).</p><p></p><p>They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't.</p><p></p><p>* It's obviously not as simple as that. For instance, I don't care about Dragonborn and Eladrin, but I do care about Warforged and Changelings. So I wouldn't care if the former were omitted from the core, and would buy an Eberron update. But I'm only one customer. That Eberron update should only get published if there's sufficient demand for it - and given the apparent failure of Eberron under 4e, that seems rather unlikely. And, conversely, I'm reasonably sure they will see complaints if they omit Dragonborn in that first release, especially if they include Gnomes.</p><p></p><p>Where things get changed quite significantly is that the DDI probably brings in enough to keep D&D going all by itself. And I expect that, sooner or later, they would get around to adding 5e support for the Eberron races in DDI (which, in all honesty, is all I need). But that's not without its own issues - if the ongoing support is pretty much just periodic updates via eDragon, they don't need anything like their current staff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6140884, member: 22424"] Perhaps I didn't express myself well, but I think you misunderstand me. Mike Mearls has talked in the past about a desire to include all the races and all the classes that have been core in any previous edition of the game. Let's take that as our baseline*. If they publish their core set, and it is missing some of those items, the edition will be dogged with endless complaints about them "spreading out the core", and about it being incomplete at release. We know this - we've seen exactly that behaviour with 4e. If they publish their core set and it [i]does[/i] include all those 'core' races and 'core' classes then they'll avoid that complaint (mostly - there will always be the unreasonable outliers). The problem with this approach, though, is that people will thank them, buy their $150 of core rules... and then never buy anything again. And we've seen [i]that[/i] behaviour with 3e (most people buy [i]nothing[/i], a very large group buy a PHB only, a much smaller subset buy a PHB and a splatbook, and then it drops off dramatically). They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. * It's obviously not as simple as that. For instance, I don't care about Dragonborn and Eladrin, but I do care about Warforged and Changelings. So I wouldn't care if the former were omitted from the core, and would buy an Eberron update. But I'm only one customer. That Eberron update should only get published if there's sufficient demand for it - and given the apparent failure of Eberron under 4e, that seems rather unlikely. And, conversely, I'm reasonably sure they will see complaints if they omit Dragonborn in that first release, especially if they include Gnomes. Where things get changed quite significantly is that the DDI probably brings in enough to keep D&D going all by itself. And I expect that, sooner or later, they would get around to adding 5e support for the Eberron races in DDI (which, in all honesty, is all I need). But that's not without its own issues - if the ongoing support is pretty much just periodic updates via eDragon, they don't need anything like their current staff. [/QUOTE]
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