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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5591831" data-attributes="member: 71571">I would say requiring your off-hand do the grabbing is nonsensical under the rules.&nbsp; You are either grabbing or you are not.&nbsp; A grab does not prevent you from being able to use your weapon, even if that weapon was the one used in the original power that grabs.Moreover, if you look at the powers for a brawler that grab, not a single one uses the off-hand to grab.&nbsp; They all are weapon powers that simply grab the target.&nbsp; Thusly, they cannot be distinguished as 'off-handed' grabs, the Weapon keyword makes it clear it's the main hand weapon doing the grabbing.On top of this, by the definition of 'hand free' if your hand is free, and you then grab someone, your hand is still free technically.&nbsp; You must have a hand free to grab one creature, and you must have two hands free to grab two creatures (obviously specific weapons that have grabbing powers are exceptions to this)&nbsp; But in neither of those cases does your hand become 'unfree'.It's clear tby the rules that if you are grabbing, you must have had a free hand to do it.&nbsp; You cannot grab if your hand is not free, and there's no such thing as 'off-handed grab'.&nbsp; If there is, please show us the power that uses this concept.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5591831, member: 71571"] I would say requiring your off-hand do the grabbing is nonsensical under the rules. You are either grabbing or you are not. A grab does not prevent you from being able to use your weapon, even if that weapon was the one used in the original power that grabs. Moreover, if you look at the powers for a brawler that grab, not a single one uses the off-hand to grab. They all are weapon powers that simply grab the target. Thusly, they cannot be distinguished as 'off-handed' grabs, the Weapon keyword makes it clear it's the main hand weapon doing the grabbing. On top of this, by the definition of 'hand free' if your hand is free, and you then grab someone, your hand is still free technically. You must have a hand free to grab one creature, and you must have two hands free to grab two creatures (obviously specific weapons that have grabbing powers are exceptions to this) But in neither of those cases does your hand become 'unfree'. It's clear tby the rules that if you are grabbing, you must have had a free hand to do it. You cannot grab if your hand is not free, and there's no such thing as 'off-handed grab'. If there is, please show us the power that uses this concept. [/QUOTE]

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